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<blockquote data-quote="Zardnaar" data-source="post: 7835421" data-attributes="member: 6716779"><p>By level 9 bard has 7 level 3 spells. With 6-8 expected encounters you can drop an 8d6 minimum spell every encounter.</p><p></p><p>So 1st round 8d6 minimum, then two rounds of 2d10+2d6. </p><p></p><p> The 8d6 part is likely to hit multiple targets and lightning bolt can be easy to avoid hitting your own mooks </p><p></p><p> Level 10 destructive wave doesn't hit your team mates plus knocks prone.</p><p></p><p>They still have another 10-14 known spelks if allies are in the way. And aoe spells don't miss and they don't rely on allies. </p><p></p><p>Rogues often win initiative and can't sneak attack. Or fly critters with no flying allies. </p><p></p><p>Blaster bard damage isn't reliant on allies. </p><p></p><p> That's in top of bard dice which can be used on skills, song if rest and actual bard spells like invisibility, enhance ability, hypnotic pattern, heat metal etc.</p><p></p><p> A Rogue has to sneak attack a blaster bard doesn't have to blast.</p><p></p><p>Bard dice are also hitting d8s and d10s which is actually better than expertise. </p><p></p><p> Limited yes but if you really need to pass the average roll is more than expertise and applies to any skill. </p><p></p><p> Plus cutting words as well.</p><p></p><p> Outside combat jack of all trades and enhance ability are also good. </p><p></p><p> Bards always good regardless rogue may not be.</p><p></p><p> Note this is something bards are not good at and it's competitive IMHO. Even if the rogue wins (both classes are situational in a rl game) it's not going to be by that much and damage isn't a bard thing. </p><p></p><p> That's what makes the bard so good you can build them to be decent at something they're supposed to be bad at.</p><p></p><p>And that's just on thing they can do. You could build one to focus on healing instead and it's still useful due to the class abilities and actual bard spell list. </p><p></p><p> You could pick spells like banishment or just cherry pick good spells and not focus on anything. Healing spirit plus fly/haste/fireball or whatever is still good.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Zardnaar, post: 7835421, member: 6716779"] By level 9 bard has 7 level 3 spells. With 6-8 expected encounters you can drop an 8d6 minimum spell every encounter. So 1st round 8d6 minimum, then two rounds of 2d10+2d6. The 8d6 part is likely to hit multiple targets and lightning bolt can be easy to avoid hitting your own mooks Level 10 destructive wave doesn't hit your team mates plus knocks prone. They still have another 10-14 known spelks if allies are in the way. And aoe spells don't miss and they don't rely on allies. Rogues often win initiative and can't sneak attack. Or fly critters with no flying allies. Blaster bard damage isn't reliant on allies. That's in top of bard dice which can be used on skills, song if rest and actual bard spells like invisibility, enhance ability, hypnotic pattern, heat metal etc. A Rogue has to sneak attack a blaster bard doesn't have to blast. Bard dice are also hitting d8s and d10s which is actually better than expertise. Limited yes but if you really need to pass the average roll is more than expertise and applies to any skill. Plus cutting words as well. Outside combat jack of all trades and enhance ability are also good. Bards always good regardless rogue may not be. Note this is something bards are not good at and it's competitive IMHO. Even if the rogue wins (both classes are situational in a rl game) it's not going to be by that much and damage isn't a bard thing. That's what makes the bard so good you can build them to be decent at something they're supposed to be bad at. And that's just on thing they can do. You could build one to focus on healing instead and it's still useful due to the class abilities and actual bard spell list. You could pick spells like banishment or just cherry pick good spells and not focus on anything. Healing spirit plus fly/haste/fireball or whatever is still good. [/QUOTE]
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