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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Thomas Bowman" data-source="post: 7447016" data-attributes="member: 6925649">I think one reason you create a nightmare world is that whatever changes you make to the timeline, in that new timeline, your characters need a reason to go back in time and change the timeline in order to avoid duplicating yourselves when you return to the present. In Timeless for instance Wyatt Logan tried to go back in time to prevent his wife's murder, so he went back to the 1980s to prevent the murder's mother and father from getting together and thus prevent the murderer of his wife from ever being born. Turns out it didn't work, his wife was still murdered. Later on Rittenhouse managed to bring back Wyatt's wife and turn her into a sleeper agent. the reason it worked then was because unlike Wyatt Logan, they had multiple reasons for going back into time to that period.1) To resurrect Wyatt's wife2) To turn her into a sleeper agent3) So save her brother from LeukemiaWyatt's wife Jessica started out murdered, when Rittenhouse "unmurdered" her, they still had a second reason to go back in time in the new timeline, that would be to turn her into a sleeper agent, and they used the leverage of saving her brother to get her to agree, and then they instructed her to marry Wyatt and keep the secret till the appointed time so the timeline would not change to eliminate their reason for going back in time and doing this to her in the first place. That is how you change the timeline without eliminating the reason for going back in time.Now how would you apply this logic to "unmurdering" John F. Kennedy. You would have to create a second reason for going back in time besides saving Kennedy's life. If the sole reason for going back in time is to save the President, then the mission is going to fail. There was an episode in Timeless, where JFK was brought to the present, and the time crew lost track of him for a time. In the process of getting lost, John F. Kennedy encountered a group of teenagers. For some reason Rittenhouse wanted to murder JFK when he was much younger, in the 1930s for example.What could be the second reason for going back in time? Maybe to warn JFK about an impending World War that was going to kill his brother Joseph P Kennedy Jr. I had myself thinking whether JFK could have prevented World War II if he was sent back to the 1930s with foreknowledge of the future. JFK knows that World War II was going to kill his brother, thus he would have motivation to try and prevent World War II by perhaps killing Hitler. So in the new timeline where JFK doesn't get assassinated, maybe time agents would still go back in time to warn Kennedy that his brother was going to be killed in World War II. if you send time agents back in time to do two things at once and only one of them fails, you still have reason to go back in time, even if you are successful at one thing but not the other.So in another timeline, where Kennedy serves out his full two terms as president, the time agents go back to the present and are told that their mission failed because Joseph P. Kennedy Jr still died in World War II.In the case of Wyatt's wife, one of the objectives was to turn her into a sleeper agent, and as a sleeper agent, she was not activated, until after the moment Rittenhouse departed for the past to change the timeline. Since Jessica was instructed not to reveal herself as a sleeper agent before the mission to change the timeline was sent, then that mission was an apparent failure, presumably there was a timeline where she was not murdered, but still Rittenhouse had reason to go back in time to turn her into a sleeper agent, and since she was undercover, the fact that she was a sleeper agent had no effect on the timeline until she chose to reveal herself to Wyatt, otherwise she acted just as she would have were she not a sleeper agent. The apparent failure of her to be a sleeper agent still motivated Rittenhouse to go back in time and try to turn her into one.That is how you change a timeline without violating these rules. you have to be a little clever and have multiple reasons for going back in time so that one can succeed.</blockquote>

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