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<blockquote data-quote="LokiDR" data-source="post: 322599" data-attributes="member: 6239">Min-Maxer*stands up*My name is Loki DR and I am a min-maxer.&nbsp; This is my first meeting of min-maxer anonymous.&nbsp; I have been powergaming for 13 years.It all started on my old Apple IIe with those gold box games.&nbsp; Pool of Radiance was my downfall.&nbsp; Years later I moved on to CCGs, but I always wanted my chance at the table top.&nbsp; The first time I got to play, it was in 2e and I had a muliti-wielding Yuan-Ti who attacked with a sword on his tail as well as each hand.&nbsp; Then I found ShadowRun, and the piles of rules to min-max.&nbsp; Now I am a poor, lonely DM who runs a game. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Humor aside, I have been influenced by the CRPGs and CCGs.&nbsp; People point it out to me and tell me I make broken characters.&nbsp; My group even has a saying for it: &quot;all your NPCs are demi-gods&quot;.&nbsp; I grew up on it, and it is a natural habit.&nbsp; I much prefer 3e because the rules are well thought out, I can see my limits more clearly.Does this mean I am no fun?&nbsp; No.&nbsp; As it has been said, powergaming is fun, if that is what you like.&nbsp; If you like creating quirky character with lots of story and lots of abilties to play with, I am your DM.&nbsp; It all comes down to genre.&nbsp; James Bond vs Sherlock Holms.&nbsp; I do a decent job of James Bond, and would be lost in Holms.&nbsp; So long as I remember that, I can manage.&nbsp; I would not join a game with lots of roleplaying using a character built to destroy armies.&nbsp; Wrong genre.&nbsp; That would be casting Jackie Chan in a remake of &quot;I Love Lucy&quot;.For the record, excess is always bad.&nbsp; When a player was convinced I was screwing all the PCs over, he began to really rule lawer and cheat.&nbsp; That was the last session of that game.&nbsp; There is a time and place for it, but not at the expense of the game.Also for the record, I hate the abuse of Rule 0.&nbsp; I DM.&nbsp; I use rule 0 every once in while.&nbsp; But when a player points out a rule I misread, I try to fix my mistake.&nbsp; I was in a game where the DM created, through the rules he said, a low level NPC he used en-mass to slaughter the party.&nbsp; I pointed out several rules violation, and his response was &quot;I rule it to work that way.&quot;&nbsp; This is not what Rule 0 was meant for.&nbsp; Enough rant for one night</blockquote>

[QUOTE="LokiDR, post: 322599, member: 6239"] [b]Min-Maxer[/b] *stands up* My name is Loki DR and I am a min-maxer. This is my first meeting of min-maxer anonymous. I have been powergaming for 13 years. It all started on my old Apple IIe with those gold box games. Pool of Radiance was my downfall. Years later I moved on to CCGs, but I always wanted my chance at the table top. The first time I got to play, it was in 2e and I had a muliti-wielding Yuan-Ti who attacked with a sword on his tail as well as each hand. Then I found ShadowRun, and the piles of rules to min-max. Now I am a poor, lonely DM who runs a game. :) Humor aside, I have been influenced by the CRPGs and CCGs. People point it out to me and tell me I make broken characters. My group even has a saying for it: "all your NPCs are demi-gods". I grew up on it, and it is a natural habit. I much prefer 3e because the rules are well thought out, I can see my limits more clearly. Does this mean I am no fun? No. As it has been said, powergaming is fun, if that is what you like. If you like creating quirky character with lots of story and lots of abilties to play with, I am your DM. It all comes down to genre. James Bond vs Sherlock Holms. I do a decent job of James Bond, and would be lost in Holms. So long as I remember that, I can manage. I would not join a game with lots of roleplaying using a character built to destroy armies. Wrong genre. That would be casting Jackie Chan in a remake of "I Love Lucy". For the record, excess is always bad. When a player was convinced I was screwing all the PCs over, he began to really rule lawer and cheat. That was the last session of that game. There is a time and place for it, but not at the expense of the game. Also for the record, I hate the abuse of Rule 0. I DM. I use rule 0 every once in while. But when a player points out a rule I misread, I try to fix my mistake. I was in a game where the DM created, through the rules he said, a low level NPC he used en-mass to slaughter the party. I pointed out several rules violation, and his response was "I rule it to work that way." This is not what Rule 0 was meant for. Enough rant for one night [/QUOTE]

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