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<blockquote data-quote="Falcmir" data-source="post: 331059" data-attributes="member: 6686">Amoral evil villains may initally start at an advantage just because they are willing to stab others in the back however that kind of thing does not go unnoticed.&nbsp; You tend not to have many friends if you are willing to kill them to get ahead, one high level wizard is not the equal of a group of high level wizards or even a mixed high level group.&nbsp; That's why organizations like the Harpers of the Forgotten Realms form, or the council of 8 in Greyhawk.&nbsp; Now it's possible for a battle of evil wizards to develop and give you a world like Dark Sun, but I dont think it's inevitable or that the published campaign settings dont include elements that negate the affect of high level evil wizards(or at least rain them in).As to the other question... &nbsp;I dont really see this as being far off from the real world yet we somehow managed to form democracies and have at least some interest in human rights at least in parts of the world.&nbsp; The real world has been and still is quite brutal at times but in the end there are still good people surviving.&nbsp; I guess it all comes down to a combination of &quot;treat others as you would have them treat you&quot; and &quot;there's always a bigger dog&quot;, meaning that if you keep trying to bully your way to power eventually someone will smack you back into your place.The other thing I question is whether even the most evil wizard who reaches high level is going to care all that much about ruling and instilling fear in common people when the wide multiverse of the planes exists.&nbsp; Even if he just sticks on the prime material with the nature of magic he has little need for masses of servants and underlings, he can achieve whatever he wants with magic.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Falcmir, post: 331059, member: 6686"] Amoral evil villains may initally start at an advantage just because they are willing to stab others in the back however that kind of thing does not go unnoticed. You tend not to have many friends if you are willing to kill them to get ahead, one high level wizard is not the equal of a group of high level wizards or even a mixed high level group. That's why organizations like the Harpers of the Forgotten Realms form, or the council of 8 in Greyhawk. Now it's possible for a battle of evil wizards to develop and give you a world like Dark Sun, but I dont think it's inevitable or that the published campaign settings dont include elements that negate the affect of high level evil wizards(or at least rain them in). As to the other question... I dont really see this as being far off from the real world yet we somehow managed to form democracies and have at least some interest in human rights at least in parts of the world. The real world has been and still is quite brutal at times but in the end there are still good people surviving. I guess it all comes down to a combination of "treat others as you would have them treat you" and "there's always a bigger dog", meaning that if you keep trying to bully your way to power eventually someone will smack you back into your place. The other thing I question is whether even the most evil wizard who reaches high level is going to care all that much about ruling and instilling fear in common people when the wide multiverse of the planes exists. Even if he just sticks on the prime material with the nature of magic he has little need for masses of servants and underlings, he can achieve whatever he wants with magic. [/QUOTE]

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