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<blockquote data-quote="LokiDR" data-source="post: 332161" data-attributes="member: 6239">Re: Re: Re: well...If it was only two spells in forrester's case, no, it isn't a different game.&nbsp; But the game he described had more changes than that, changes that cut to the core of the game.&nbsp; Forrester wants his PCs to be able to face a small army of better trained (higher level) characters.&nbsp; This is just not the case D&amp;D was writen for.As for d20 games, I would question your experience.&nbsp; Read &quot;The End&quot;, for example.&nbsp; The largest hit die you get is a d4, and that is a PrC.&nbsp; There is no magical healing and certainly no way back from the dead.&nbsp; No real damage spells period.&nbsp; How can this possibly be on the same par as D&amp;D?&nbsp; Would you be willing to drop Star Wars characters in a D&amp;D setting?&nbsp; How about super heros?&nbsp; I once played a game that allowed all d20 material and rule 0ed like there was no tomorrow.&nbsp; The combinations allowed for some of the most rule-bendingly insane combinations I have ever heard of.&nbsp; We accidently burned half an elven forest to the ground with fireballs.&nbsp; We were 4th level.&nbsp; 27 fireballs went&nbsp; off in that encounter.&nbsp; That was the first session.&nbsp; Can I bring the character from that game into your game?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="LokiDR, post: 332161, member: 6239"] [b]Re: Re: Re: well...[/b] If it was only two spells in forrester's case, no, it isn't a different game. But the game he described had more changes than that, changes that cut to the core of the game. Forrester wants his PCs to be able to face a small army of better trained (higher level) characters. This is just not the case D&D was writen for. As for d20 games, I would question your experience. Read "The End", for example. The largest hit die you get is a d4, and that is a PrC. There is no magical healing and certainly no way back from the dead. No real damage spells period. How can this possibly be on the same par as D&D? Would you be willing to drop Star Wars characters in a D&D setting? How about super heros? I once played a game that allowed all d20 material and rule 0ed like there was no tomorrow. The combinations allowed for some of the most rule-bendingly insane combinations I have ever heard of. We accidently burned half an elven forest to the ground with fireballs. We were 4th level. 27 fireballs went off in that encounter. That was the first session. Can I bring the character from that game into your game? [/QUOTE]

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