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Message: <blockquote data-quote="JeffK1966" data-source="post: 312324" data-attributes="member: 4662">I think part of the problem is that some male gamers have been gaming in male only gaming environments for so long, that throwing a woman into the mix confuses them in that they do not know how to act all the time in what was a previously male only environment.  That in turn, makes them uncomfortable and may make the woman uncomfortable in turn.We had a fairly stable large group, but our DM and I were always trying to find a good new player or .two.  We found one guy that seemed really good.  He was in to the role-playing aspects, but also liked the combat, and he always seemed to come up with a bright idea to save the group’s collective butts on several occasions.Well, one day he asked if his girlfriend could join the group, as she had done some gaming.  Naturally, we welcomed her aboard.  She was a very pretty woman, and not just pretty for a gamer pretty.  She fit in well with the group, but the DM and I both noticed some subtle changes in group behavior.  The guys in the group tried to be a bit more heroic in game, or come up with that bring the house down one liner in a life or death situation, only to sometimes put their foots in their mouths.The swearing was cut down quite a bit the first several weeks as well, but it picked up after she became "one of the guys." However, I don’t really remember the guys publicly breaking wind after that ike they might do with just guys around.But, a month or two after she joined the group and was doing well with as an elven enchantress, we tried out another guy.  After being fairly normal in the first session, he came back for a game of Cyberpunk or Shadowrun ,or some other dark future game, later and insisted on playing a former female prostitute (or was it a porn star?) with huge breasts who had used her feminine charms to distract the guards and get out of prison.  Then, when it came back to D&D the next week, he wanted his first full character to be a kender paladin/thief modeled after Batman.  Never mind that Kalamar did not have kinder and 2E did not allow for multi-class or non-human paladins.  When the DM nixed the guy’s idea, he 'settled' for a human paladin named Bwayne (get it, B Wayne for Bruce Wayne)...if the guy was not on enough thin ice after his female prostitute thing, he made the woman in our group uncomfortable by constantly leaning back in his chair and leering at her.So, he obviously was gone pretty quickly.  And, it turns out that we strongly suspect that he switched his old, beat up copy of the 2E Fighter's Handbook with the DM's mint condition handbook before he left.</blockquote>

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