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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Smoss" data-source="post: 5520107" data-attributes="member: 82115">It was the HP whittling (And bookeeping of thus) that turned me off of D&D.  I loved 3E for a while, but I moved on to my own system.  4E didn't solve my problem (And went the wrong direction *for me* in some things, most of which not relevant to this discussion).As a DM, I wanted less tracking of HP and other multitudes of stuff.  I wanted simple and fast to play to help keep the game moving in combat.  While keeping the tactical side.  It is a hard balance to find (And my balance is very much suited to me, less so to others I am sure).Each version of the game has its advantages and disadvantages.  The adventures DO need to take this into account (Assuming you want the less grindy feeling combats).  A long string of combats with "grindy" monsters is going to make me HATE that adventure.  I am sure some 4E complaints are based on adventures designed like that.  High level 3E adventures that I played in often felt like that too.  The answer I would see is to fix the adventure design.I know - Time is the enemy to that (Reworking a published adventure, making your own adventure, etc).  Not everyone is going to have the time resources to do this (Being a jobless bum DOES have the one small advantage...) - But do you have the time NOT to?  A good game requires time usually.  Until companies are making adventures of all the different sorts we all want.  (Yeah, meet the needs of EVERYONE!  I dare ya!)Hopefully there are quick solutions (Morrus points out some 4E tweaks above).  If not, well sorry bub.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Smoss</blockquote>

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