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<blockquote data-quote="Dannager" data-source="post: 5522665" data-attributes="member: 73683">Or provide a bonus to allies, or heal himself, or provide himself with temporary hit points, or give himself a damaging aura, or shift across the battlefield, or...Yeah, no, the whole &quot;Yeah, but fighter powers are all the same,&quot; argument doesn't really hold water now, and never really did.&nbsp;Yep, attack, bull rush, sunder, trip, grapple, and realistically only one or two of those, since he needs specific training to do anything effectively aside from just attacking.Not exactly a tactical powerhouse.&nbsp;&nbsp;A smart 4e player is looking at each of his powers and deciding which to use while he sizes up the battlefield and decides what needs to be done. Tactics in 4e don't neglect the battlefield. In fact, they emphasize it.It doesn't mean it isn't, either. Just like everything.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Dannager, post: 5522665, member: 73683"] Or provide a bonus to allies, or heal himself, or provide himself with temporary hit points, or give himself a damaging aura, or shift across the battlefield, or... Yeah, no, the whole "Yeah, but fighter powers are all the [I]same[/I]," argument doesn't really hold water now, and never really did. Yep, attack, bull rush, sunder, trip, grapple, and realistically only one or two of those, since he needs specific training to do anything effectively aside from just attacking. Not exactly a tactical powerhouse. A smart 4e player is looking at each of his powers and deciding which to use while he sizes up the battlefield and decides what needs to be done. Tactics in 4e don't neglect the battlefield. In fact, they [I]emphasize it[/I]. It doesn't mean it isn't, either. Just like everything. [/QUOTE]

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