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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Traveon Wyvernspur" data-source="post: 6168981" data-attributes="member: 73201">You are reading it incorrectly. The Large Sized 2-handed weapon according to RAW for you is a HUGE sized 2-handed weapon.Weapon Size Every weapon has a size category. This designation indicates the size of the creature for which the weapon was designed. A weapon's size category isn't the same as its size as an object.  Instead, a weapon's size category is keyed to the size of the intended  wielder. In general, a light weapon is an object two size categories  smaller than the wielder, a one-handed weapon is an object one size  category smaller than the wielder, and a two-handed weapon is an object  of the same size category as the wielder. Inappropriately Sized Weapons: A creature can't make optimum use of a weapon that isn't properly sized for it. A cumulative –2 penalty applies on <a href="http://www.d20pfsrd.com/gamemastering/combat#TOC-Attack-Roll" target="_blank">attack rolls</a>  for each size category of difference between the size of its intended  wielder and the size of its actual wielder. If the creature isn't  proficient with the weapon, a –4 non-proficiency penalty also applies. The measure of how much effort it takes to use a weapon (whether the  weapon is designated as a light, one-handed, or two-handed weapon for a  particular wielder) is altered by one step for each size category of  difference between the wielder's size and the size of the creature for  which the weapon was designed. For example, a Small creature would wield  a Medium one-handed weapon as a two-handed weapon. If a weapon's  designation would be changed to something other than light, one-handed,  or two-handed by this alteration, the creature can't wield the weapon at  all.Basically it goes like this:Jotungrip allows "appropriated sized" THW weapons meaning if you are  medium you are allow to wield it "1 hand" as if it was a one handed type  weapon with a penalty of -2, which if you couldn't do. Massive Weapons allows "Inappropriate sized weapons" to be wielded in  frame work you suffer a -2 for each size grade too large of equitable  weapons example...a "Large Dagger" is a One Handed Weapon to you but you  still suffer a -2 for its size it's not meant for your "size" if it's a  large sized long sword you suffer a -4 cause technicality is it's a  "large two handed weapon" but meant for a "large" character if you try  to use a large sized great sword you take a -6 meaning the large size  great sword is the finale.  Another example: huge sized dagger is a "Two Handed Weapon" meaning you take a -4 to  wield it as such cause it's not a proper "weapon" it's not BUILT for  your size it deals the "Large Size Dagger Damage" no matter what size  grade you are....BUT this ability does not make them appropriate size  for you, you negates penalties meaning JotunGrip still only applies to  the "Two Handed Weapons of your Size Grade built for your SIZE GRADE"  Light = 2 sizes grade smaller One Handed = 1 size grade greater Two Handed = even size Nothing goes past this line EVER  Smaller sized weapon also grade down so a Small sized Dagger is -2, a  Tiny sized Dagger is -4, a Small size Long Sword is -2, Tiny sized Long Sword is -4, Small  sized Great Sword is -2, Tiny sized Great Sword is -4. Note there is nothing smaller than  tiny but if you are a large sized character it would be a -6 as the weapon  would be 3 grades smaller thus -6 if huge sized used a tiny sized it be a  -8. The reason is because of hand size and handling too small of  pummels/hilts or weight balances etc. the size of the weaponry itself  compared to your own size category is what counts here.  Large Dagger = One handed for mediums with a -2 penalty Huge Dagger = Two Handed weapon for mediums which is a -4 penalty  Large Long Sword = Two handed for mediums with a -2 penalty Huge Long Sword = Unusable it's past the Two handed grade upon size up  Large Great Sword = Unusable  Bastard swords are a special case weapon they ONLY turn one handed if you are trained in them this is a special case they are Two Handed Weapons without the feat thus No feat = unusable for a medium char using a large bastard sword Feat = using this over sized weapon is -2 as Bastard swords turn into a  "One Handed Weapon" and by RULES One Handed Weapons CAN be used two  handed as the same of normal Two Handed Weapons while Light Weapons  cannot but used 2 handed bonus</blockquote>

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