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<blockquote data-quote="DM_Blake" data-source="post: 4153511" data-attributes="member: 57267"><p>Round 1:</p><p>Still silent and invisible, the rogue refocuses. Guaranteed initiative advantage.</p><p></p><p>Round 2:</p><p>Rogue positions himself within reach of the guard and the bell, then he sneak attacks from invisibility. This is a surprise round, so guard does nothing.</p><p></p><p>Round 3:</p><p>Guard rolls initiative, but not very likely he beats the refocused rogue. Rogue full attacks with sneak attack since guard is still flat-footed. If guard survives all that, guard can try to ring bell which provokes an attack of opportunity.</p><p></p><p>If, after all this, then I begin to question why the DM is so determined to foil the player's well-laid plans. As a DM, I would be saying, "Gosh, seems I made this guard a little to overpowered. The rogue did 60 points of damage, but the guard has 80 HP. Well, I'll just pretend he had 50 and tell the rogue he dropped the guard."</p><p></p><p>The only way I wouldn't propagate the story and reward the player's creative problem solving by allowing the plan to work is if </p><p>A. The rogue rolled horribly, natural 1s on this attacks, incredibly low damage. I would, at this point, say "Great plan, but fate obviously had it in for you. The guard rings the bell."</p><p>B. I had carefully scripted this event to fail. I have a definite plan for this encounter, and ringing that bell is part of it. Although, I would still probably reward the player by letting his plan work, but something else fails. Thinking on my feet, I would probably do something like "The guard dies silently, but then falls over the rail and plummets to the ground below where his corpse crashes into a pile of spears and other metal weapons, causing a horrible rucus. From somewhere inside the encampment you hear people shouting an alarm."</p><p></p><p>But in truth, in the initial scenario, I would have simply ruled that this was a situation where a coup-de-grace would be applicable, and I would inform the player that his character recognizes this opportunity (in case the player doesn't know of the rule, or in case he knows it well enough to know that normally he couldn't do it here).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DM_Blake, post: 4153511, member: 57267"] Round 1: Still silent and invisible, the rogue refocuses. Guaranteed initiative advantage. Round 2: Rogue positions himself within reach of the guard and the bell, then he sneak attacks from invisibility. This is a surprise round, so guard does nothing. Round 3: Guard rolls initiative, but not very likely he beats the refocused rogue. Rogue full attacks with sneak attack since guard is still flat-footed. If guard survives all that, guard can try to ring bell which provokes an attack of opportunity. If, after all this, then I begin to question why the DM is so determined to foil the player's well-laid plans. As a DM, I would be saying, "Gosh, seems I made this guard a little to overpowered. The rogue did 60 points of damage, but the guard has 80 HP. Well, I'll just pretend he had 50 and tell the rogue he dropped the guard." The only way I wouldn't propagate the story and reward the player's creative problem solving by allowing the plan to work is if A. The rogue rolled horribly, natural 1s on this attacks, incredibly low damage. I would, at this point, say "Great plan, but fate obviously had it in for you. The guard rings the bell." B. I had carefully scripted this event to fail. I have a definite plan for this encounter, and ringing that bell is part of it. Although, I would still probably reward the player by letting his plan work, but something else fails. Thinking on my feet, I would probably do something like "The guard dies silently, but then falls over the rail and plummets to the ground below where his corpse crashes into a pile of spears and other metal weapons, causing a horrible rucus. From somewhere inside the encampment you hear people shouting an alarm." But in truth, in the initial scenario, I would have simply ruled that this was a situation where a coup-de-grace would be applicable, and I would inform the player that his character recognizes this opportunity (in case the player doesn't know of the rule, or in case he knows it well enough to know that normally he couldn't do it here). [/QUOTE]
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