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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Silver Moon" data-source="post: 4160642" data-attributes="member: 8530">So now we're 215 Posts into an interesting Meta-discussion of combat systems and I've yet to see the solution that my party came up with when in an almost identical situation.The Rogue managed to get up to the guard tower, but instead of attacking once he got there he first made the bell inoperable.   How?  He wrapped the clapper on the bell with padding so that if rung it wouldn't chime.    We were using 1E rules so I required another Move Silent roll followed by a Dex Check.    Using 3E rules the Move Silent/Disable Device combination would be the alternative.   The Rogue also set up a low tripwire across the tower floor before beginning the attack, requiring another Move Silent and Dex Check to accomplish (Move Silent and either Disable Device or Craft roll in 3E).The Rogue then attacked the foe, missing, and the bell was rung but only made a muffled sound.    The guard's next move would have been to hit the bell with his broadsword but didn't get a chance as the Rogue pushed him into the tripwire and off the tower by that point.  So I see the Rogue's pirmary failure as having been thinking like a figher rather than a thief.     The alarms being sounded however doesn't blow the module, it just changes it.   That scenario happened when my party did the "Beast of Burden" module and what followed was still loads of fun, as described in this Story Hour thread:<a href="http://www.enworld.org/showthread.php?t=63210" target="_blank">http://www.enworld.org/showthread.php?t=63210</a></blockquote>

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