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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 6073723" data-attributes="member: 82106">I think it depends on how you play and what you compare it to. Is it any faster? The other night we were 2nd level adventuring in the gnome caves and all of a sudden we run into some apparently provided wandering monsters, 14 orcs and an Orog. The fight took a GOOD LONG while until we were finally beaten down to defeat. Now, obviously 14 orcs is a lot for the DM to handle, but it wouldn't have been TOO much in say 1e. In DDN though there was just enough added complexity that it turned into a slog. The PCs also had a number of tricks, I kept bouncing other characters back up from being down for instance. Now, lets imagine this fight in 4e. It would have been an orog and a bunch of minions. A dangerous fight for level 2 PCs, but potentially interesting and at least we could have backed out after skirmishing for a couple rounds. The minions would have played quick and I think the fight would have been more interesting and probably about as quick, maybe quicker.In 1e or 2e it would have been even faster. The casters would clearly have unleashed in that sort of "oh crap" scenario (as we did anyway) and that would have cut the size of things down right off. The threat level would have probably been about the same (IE we'd have had a hard time winning). I think it would have been equally interesting.So, compared to 4e? Clearly at least SOME combat can be faster. It may not always be so in practice. I suspect with players that are really familiar with the awkward 'action' rules of DDN it would go reasonably fast and faster than 4e (though experienced 4e players can do pretty well). 1e will probably remain eternally the fastest edition ever.</blockquote>

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