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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Manbearcat" data-source="post: 7593275" data-attributes="member: 6696971">On this bit here, it appears that you're bringing in posting history and other threads.  On this point, I don't agree with your takeaway of my position (insofar as it seems like you're aggregating a wide variety of positions/issues/and opposition) when we're talking about the specific TTRPG and GMing issues of other threads.However, I definitely don't agree that your post directly above hooks into the point under discussion in my tiny little contribution to this thread.A point was made about what is perceived as the exclusive concerns for newly minted GMs, and, simultaneously, what is peripheral or what is irrelevant.With that in mind:1)  I don't agree that those are exclusive concerns except insofar that your exposure is cordoned to a very specific mental framework and/or a very specific brand of gaming.2)  I also don't agree with the rider to that statement; x, y, z are peripheral or irrelevant.3)  Put it together and a position is arrived at that the zeitgeist of this particular mental framework and brand of gaming is "accessible" and therefore normative/orthodox, should be treated as such, and other types treated as deviant and/or inaccessible to the point that attempting to "cut one's teeth" on it is apt to lead to turning away from the hobby. That was the very specific point I was contending with.Nothing about "boxed text is bad" and whatever one might extrapolate from that position (I don't think boxed text is inherently, universally bad by the way).Just that I cut my teeth on a different type of gaming (different than the Dungeon World anecdote I presented above).  The values I GMed under were very much about being able to generate content that focused on interesting decision-points for the players and neutral refereeing...and I very much appreciated tools/techniques that facilitated * that.* a fleshed out mapped and keyed dungeon, codified/tight play procedures - Exploration Turns, Wandering Monster Clock, Monster Reactions, Morale - that emboldened neutral refereeing and rendered null the application of GM Force as much as possible such that the output of play could achieve as much competitive integrity and "play to find out" as we could muster, even though we didn't have that jargon to express those values.</blockquote>

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