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<blockquote data-quote="Imaculata" data-source="post: 6785807" data-attributes="member: 6801286">Since when does the player decide if he should roll for something? Isn't it the job of the DM to say if he should, or should not roll for his charisma attempt?In which case, as Iserith pointed out, you simply don't ask for a roll, and declare it a failure.This is a poor example. Here is a good one: The players fight against an enemy which they should be able to defeat with ease. But due to insanely bad luck, the players keep rolling 1's, and the DM keeps rolling 20's for his monsters. The players are starting to get annoyed, and clearly feel that this isn't fair.Now you could just roll with it, and accept the fact that your group of players gets absolutely butchered in an encounter that they should have been able to handle. And that's a perfectly fine way to handle it. Some DM's play this way, and I have nothing against that.Or, you could change some of those crits to normal hits. This is something that I'm not against either. I've done it on rare occasion.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Imaculata, post: 6785807, member: 6801286"] Since when does the player decide if he should roll for something? Isn't it the job of the DM to say if he should, or should not roll for his charisma attempt? In which case, as Iserith pointed out, you simply don't ask for a roll, and declare it a failure. This is a poor example. Here is a good one: The players fight against an enemy which they should be able to defeat with ease. But due to insanely bad luck, the players keep rolling 1's, and the DM keeps rolling 20's for his monsters. The players are starting to get annoyed, and clearly feel that this isn't fair. Now you could just roll with it, and accept the fact that your group of players gets absolutely butchered in an encounter that they should have been able to handle. And that's a perfectly fine way to handle it. Some DM's play this way, and I have nothing against that. Or, you could change some of those crits to normal hits. This is something that I'm not against either. I've done it on rare occasion. [/QUOTE]

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