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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 6802080" data-attributes="member: 23751">man·yˈmenēdeterminer, pronoun, &amp; adjective1. a large number of.&quot;many people agreed with her&quot;synonyms:&nbsp; &nbsp; numerous, a great/good deal of, a lot of, plenty of, countless, innumerable, scores of, crowds of, droves of, an army of, a horde of, a multitude of, a multiplicity of, multitudinous, multiple, untoldNo.&nbsp; The solution is for them to not play in my game.&nbsp; I have a very limited number of spots.&nbsp; I can and have filled them with people who have a similar outlook on playing.&nbsp; I don't need to put people in my game who hate fudging and they can find others like them to play with and so it won't be an issue.You would still know failure, even in fights where I fudge.&nbsp; I never, ever fudge in order to make the PCs win.&nbsp; I only even up the odds a bit and put things back inside the acceptable range of randomness.No I haven't.I know my players well.&nbsp; The newest player has been playing in my game for 3 years.&nbsp; The oldest has been gaming with me since 1984.&nbsp; The rest fall in-between.&nbsp; I never said it couldn't harm enjoyment.&nbsp; I said it can't harm enjoyment if the player doesn't know.&nbsp; That's a fact.&nbsp; If someone doesn't know, then the game is perceived no differently by that person than if no fudging happened.&nbsp; Therefore, his enjoyment cannot have been harmed.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 6802080, member: 23751"] man·y ˈmenē determiner, pronoun, & adjective 1. a large number of. "many people agreed with her" synonyms: numerous, a great/good deal of, a lot of, plenty of, countless, innumerable, scores of, crowds of, droves of, an army of, a horde of, a multitude of, a multiplicity of, multitudinous, multiple, untold No. The solution is for them to not play in my game. I have a very limited number of spots. I can and have filled them with people who have a similar outlook on playing. I don't need to put people in my game who hate fudging and they can find others like them to play with and so it won't be an issue. You would still know failure, even in fights where I fudge. I never, ever fudge in order to make the PCs win. I only even up the odds a bit and put things back inside the acceptable range of randomness. No I haven't. I know my players well. The newest player has been playing in my game for 3 years. The oldest has been gaming with me since 1984. The rest fall in-between. I never said it couldn't harm enjoyment. I said it can't harm enjoyment if the player doesn't know. That's a fact. If someone doesn't know, then the game is perceived no differently by that person than if no fudging happened. Therefore, his enjoyment cannot have been harmed. [/QUOTE]

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