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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 6803848" data-attributes="member: 996">The latter is the big difference.  In 5e, DMs and players are not on remotely equal footing.  Calling it 'deception' is a silly exaggeration, though.  I'm 'lying' to you about something I'm making up out of whole cloth to begin with?  Hardly.  I'm just not sharing all the details of the whole resolution process.  It's players like that, who would be annoyed by 'DM force', that call for 'fudging,' rather than just making rulings, changing rules or 'stakes,' or what-have-you, openly.  You can cater to the mixed attitudes of such a table by keeping things behind the screen and keeping up some plausible deniability.  If there's a DM screen up, it's a very real possibility, that should be obvious.</blockquote>