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Message: <blockquote data-quote="El Mahdi" data-source="post: 5878398" data-attributes="member: 59506">I and the groups that I've played with have all preferred to use minis and grids with full tactical rules.  I have however, started using TotM occasionally as of late.  Or just using minis for basic relative position.  I'm finding I like to use the method that most fits at the time, and switch between them. For minis though, a Grid seems to be the most convenient (IMO), but I would prefer a way to do without it.  Instead of a Grid, I have experimented with using cut lengths of ribbon or string for movement lengths instead (ala Wargaming).  I like removing the visible grid from the eyes of the players as it seems to help remove some metagame decisions based on exact measurements (something real combatants usually don't have). But I imagine that no matter how much I start to use other tools (be it TotM or rough relative positioning), Minis with full tactical rules will probably remain de rigueur for me and the groups I play with. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/glasses.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt="B-)" title="Glasses    B-)" data-shortname="B-)" /></blockquote>