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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Psion" data-source="post: 16251" data-attributes="member: 172">Re: Oh that's easy!Yeah, I was thinking something like that. Makes a convenient achilles heel.But what drains charisma. Bloodless are immune to poison IIRC (actually most ability drain IIRC.)Funny, we have an alternate group for these players already. Actually two. One we started recently is only 4th level... I don't think they are up to it unless I really do some cinematic style david-and-goliath scenario. The backups we used to play were basically in-training backups for the current group, around 10th level or so (the ones that are running through RA that I mentioned a few weeks ago... with the Satyr monk, etc.)</blockquote>