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<blockquote data-quote="Psion" data-source="post: 16294" data-attributes="member: 172">Re: You got lucky. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Yes, well, I was just looking at that. I didn't realize the charisma drain counted as temporary charisma. That sounds REALLY abusive, and I would have to rule to limit its effects. Otherwise, you can double its charisma! So at a minimum, we are talking the capability to get a 40 charisma, which would give the bloodless a +15 charisma modifier!Nah, I'd be tempted to limit the modified charisma to (say) base charima + base charisma modifier (so 25 in most cases), or say that it doesn't count for spells and special abilities.Edit: Ooh... better yet! The bloodless cannot count charisma drained from creatures with less than 1/2 of the bloodless's current charisma. That would explain why they prefer creatures with higher charisma.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Psion, post: 16294, member: 172"] [b]Re: You got lucky. :)[/b] Yes, well, I was just looking at that. I didn't realize the charisma drain counted as temporary charisma. That sounds REALLY abusive, and I would have to rule to limit its effects. Otherwise, you can double its charisma! So at a minimum, we are talking the capability to get a 40 charisma, which would give the bloodless a +15 charisma modifier! Nah, I'd be tempted to limit the modified charisma to (say) base charima + base charisma modifier (so 25 in most cases), or say that it doesn't count for spells and special abilities. Edit: Ooh... better yet! The bloodless cannot count charisma drained from creatures with less than 1/2 of the bloodless's current charisma. That would explain why they prefer creatures with higher charisma. [/QUOTE]

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