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To Mike Mearls: Melee training and the Battlemind
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<blockquote data-quote="UngeheuerLich" data-source="post: 5276681" data-attributes="member: 59057"><p>It is still an ok choice to take melee training... I just don´t get why it is so terrible...</p><p></p><p>Maybe the solution is easy:</p><p></p><p>Tensers Transformation</p><p>Wizard Utility</p><p>daily</p><p>Transmutation</p><p></p><p>until the end of the encounter, you use your int modifier for basic melee attacks. On a hit, you deal an extra 1d6 damage and push the target con modifier squares and deal con damage to an enemy adjacent to the target. </p><p></p><p>you cannot only use at-will powers until you end this power as a minor action.</p><p></p><p>something like that...</p><p></p><p></p><p>I have te feeling that melee training is either too good, or not good enough. If you are a wizard, wven if you trained melee training, it is still not good enough as a regular attack. As an opportunity attack or charge attack or granted attack by a power, it is so strong, that not to take melee training is a mistake.</p><p></p><p>So nerfing this feat is the right decision, but maybe we need a reconstruction of MBAs</p><p></p><p>Actually I would have been fine if MBA and RBA was:</p><p></p><p>attack: highes attribute vs AC</p><p>damage 1[w] + str (melee) / dex (ranged)</p><p></p><p>So you can take melee training if your strength is too low. But with mediocre strength you can live without the feat. Maybe different classes could get a feat that allows other effects on MBAs other than added damage (like a mage getting a push effect on a hit)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="UngeheuerLich, post: 5276681, member: 59057"] It is still an ok choice to take melee training... I just don´t get why it is so terrible... Maybe the solution is easy: Tensers Transformation Wizard Utility daily Transmutation until the end of the encounter, you use your int modifier for basic melee attacks. On a hit, you deal an extra 1d6 damage and push the target con modifier squares and deal con damage to an enemy adjacent to the target. you cannot only use at-will powers until you end this power as a minor action. something like that... I have te feeling that melee training is either too good, or not good enough. If you are a wizard, wven if you trained melee training, it is still not good enough as a regular attack. As an opportunity attack or charge attack or granted attack by a power, it is so strong, that not to take melee training is a mistake. So nerfing this feat is the right decision, but maybe we need a reconstruction of MBAs Actually I would have been fine if MBA and RBA was: attack: highes attribute vs AC damage 1[w] + str (melee) / dex (ranged) So you can take melee training if your strength is too low. But with mediocre strength you can live without the feat. Maybe different classes could get a feat that allows other effects on MBAs other than added damage (like a mage getting a push effect on a hit) [/QUOTE]
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