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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mengu" data-source="post: 5283801" data-attributes="member: 65726">It's about as powerful as being a Strength based character such as a barbarian, and they're not forced to spend extra points on intelligence to have a good basic attack. An Avenger who wants primarily wisdom and intelligence or dexterity, and a little bit of Con since he will be in melee a lot, has no use (or points left over) for strength. Why is it too powerful for him to have a basic attack as good as a barbarian? They both play similar roles, barbarian just happens to have a strength stat as primary.Basic attack is about the worst attack a character has anyway. That's why it's basic. Your encounter powers, daily powers, and at-will powers will all be better than this. It just gives you a competent attack in certain situations. Why is this too powerful?As an avenger player with melee training, I'm unhappy with the change. I lose 3 points of damage, and that might not seem like a lot, but it's 20% of my damage on a hit, considering how often I end up having to charge to get to a target, and how often I get granted basic attacks, it's a pretty hefty penalty, and makes strength based strikers such as barbarian or ranger simply more desirable.It was a tool that allowed non-strength based characters to jump over a hurdle they shouldn't have had to overcome to begin with. Now it's a half-baked tool that leaves me dissatisfied.</blockquote>