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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DracoSuave" data-source="post: 5284911" data-attributes="member: 71571">Interesting.Cause the Avenger class I know has things like Sequestering Winds, Inexorable Persuit, Blade Step, Enmity's Reach, Angelic Alacrity....The only argument I can see for obsolutely needing to charge is if you're based around Inexorable Persuit, and so, yes, I could see that avenger charging often.  But, for the most part, if your Avenger has a problem with mobility and attacking, the problem is solvable without resorting to Melee Training.Oath + free attacks tho... that's a reason to do so.This I can't argue with.  If you're making a character based around basic attacks, then yes, Melee training should come in handy, even at the -3 damage that it's dealing now.  But... for the most part, if you're not taking an MBA based build 'But I need mobility from charge' is a sad arguement for avengers, given a lot of their power list consists of 'Enemy comes here and I kill it' or 'I go to enemy and I kill it.'  They're -damn- mobile as it is.If you think a double-move is the counter to 'An avenger is attacking me' then you're not terribly familiar with the class.  Bond of Persuit?  That's your first and most basic answer.</blockquote>