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<blockquote data-quote="Woas" data-source="post: 3960752" data-attributes="member: 16317">Well, when the only tools in a player's tool kit that have any extrapolation/explaination are: attack, full attack, trip, disarm, cast spell...more combat rules...Then every problem a player comes to is dealt with in that manner.So when Baron McNiceguy comes to talk with the characters and give them adventure hooks and/or rewards the outcome is the characters jumping the NPC for his stuff since they don't understand what the rules of speaking with someone are and extracting information from them in a non-violent way.So it comes down to, DM: &quot;Baron McNiceguy pays a visit. You know he has some info you could use&quot; PC: &quot;Hmm, well the only solid options I know that work are: attack, disarm, trip...&quot;Not that it's that big of a deal... but just saying, combat is not the only rules that could use playtesting/fleshing out</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Woas, post: 3960752, member: 16317"] Well, when the only tools in a player's tool kit that have any extrapolation/explaination are: attack, full attack, trip, disarm, cast spell...more combat rules... Then every problem a player comes to is dealt with in that manner. So when Baron McNiceguy comes to talk with the characters and give them adventure hooks and/or rewards the outcome is the characters jumping the NPC for his stuff since they don't understand what the rules of speaking with someone are and extracting information from them in a non-violent way. So it comes down to, DM: "Baron McNiceguy pays a visit. You know he has some info you could use" PC: "Hmm, well the only solid options I know that work are: attack, disarm, trip..." Not that it's that big of a deal... but just saying, combat is not the only rules that could use playtesting/fleshing out [/QUOTE]

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