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Message: <blockquote data-quote="two" data-source="post: 1486100" data-attributes="member: 9002">cake and eat itWhen multi-classing an arcane casting class, or considering it, don't forget to ponder the only core arcane fighter/wizard... the bard.Yeah, Cleric BAB, worse spells than the wizard, but it's a very easy build (Fighter5/Sorcerer5 vs. Bard10?) and with inspire courage ramping up nicely the bard has a lot going for it.  Plus, can wear armor..light armor... no spell failure...this is pretty nice.  Actually, a Bard10 would/should easily wax a Sorcerer5/Fighter5.  Good defensive spells (dimension door, mirror image, alter self), good will-save disablers (enchantments), good utility spells (dispel magic), good saves (reflex, will).  I'm not sure how the Sorcerer5/Fighter5 would win barring a lucky crit or something.  The Bard can just escape, buff with spells, and come back for more (heal too, if required).The Bard has the same BAB, can cast higher-level spells, and should have better defenses all around than the sorc5/fighter5.  Something to consider. Plus, giving all your pals +2/+2 or +3/+3 on to-hit and damage really increases a party's overall damage output per round -- you might be surprised by how much.</blockquote>