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Message: <blockquote data-quote="maddman75" data-source="post: 1997660" data-attributes="member: 2673">Our group doesn't hide much of anything.  We always tell players the AC of the creatures.  More often than not players are told the DC of a save - make a DC 18 Fort save or whatever.  And while I do roll in the open, the complexity of 3e allows me to still fudge.  What with feats like expertise and power attack, ac, attacks, and damage go up and down all the time.  Once you realize this, the Zen of 3e becomes apparant.  If they can't tell that I'm doing this, they can't tell if I completely BS my way through stat blocks.  As long as I'm in the right neighborhood, in all the various combinations of classes, templates, races, and PrCs there have to be some variation that happens to match whatever numbers I pull from the air.Don't try to learn all the rules, that is impossible.  Only realize the truth.There are no rules.</blockquote>