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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Imret" data-source="post: 1926555" data-attributes="member: 991">I think the big issue here is covered in Darkness' post above...UA suggests you could trade it for fighter bonus feats, arguably THE feature of the fighter class. Yes, they get bigger hit dice and whatnot, but...feats are really the "money" feature. I'm not sure that voluntarily crippling one's character without any kind of compensation is an attractive option for most players, unless combat is rare at best in your campaign or you want to be less effective in combat.No, we don't stereotype fighters as plate & sword fighters, because there are lots of fighter feats that apply in other ways; mounted combat, archery, beating the tar out of someone with whatever's within reach, or even just tanking. But they still use the feats. To put it another way (now, again, my books are very, very far away from me, so apologies if this argument no longer holds water), play a fighter who spends all his feats on Skill Focus for his class skills. Not exactly the "fighter" any more, is he?Similarly, the Forsaker PrC jumps to mind. If just not using magic items weren't that big a deal, they wouldn't give you something back for the sacrifice. If you're going to abandon the class ability WotC seems to feel is equal to the primary feature of the fighter class, then you should probably get something back.But, hey, YMMV.Footnote: The "we're not thieves any more, really" was mine. It's just a phrase for fun. They could call them "Oogats" and they'd still have 8 skill points, sneak attack, and evasion.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

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