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To the Official Folks: How will Wishes affect Feats?
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<blockquote data-quote="Junkheap" data-source="post: 282582" data-attributes="member: 768"><p>I know it makes no mention of that in the PHB, but neither does it say you can. As far as i understand it, unless it explicitly says it in the rule books, you can't do it. You have to take it word for word. It doesn't say that wish could be used to make 15000 gp, even though you can make a 15000gp item. Now which one would be more valuable and broken? Its the same thing with wish/miracle. Ultimately it IS up to the DM, but it would be a joke if the DM let him have it.</p><p></p><p>I mean, you bend or in some cases you say it is allowed, but then you limit him because it is too powerfull? If it was meant to do it in the beginning, it would have been either stated in the book, OR would have had a limit already implemented in the book like ability bonuses.</p><p></p><p>And about the pit fiend, are you telling me you go around and give the monster XP's to determine what they can wish for? A MM base pit fiend doesn't have class levels. So does that mean it can't use wish unless it had classes so that it had XP? And either way, a monster of that stature could do the same things a PC can do when they have wish. They cast wish, and in his case go beat down some demons in the BW and recast next year. </p><p></p><p>In the lord of the iron fortress, i think a genie does it to his giant counterpart or slave. He raises his abilities. I don't hink anybody will lose sleep over the fact that you ignore the xp for monsters casting wish.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Junkheap, post: 282582, member: 768"] I know it makes no mention of that in the PHB, but neither does it say you can. As far as i understand it, unless it explicitly says it in the rule books, you can't do it. You have to take it word for word. It doesn't say that wish could be used to make 15000 gp, even though you can make a 15000gp item. Now which one would be more valuable and broken? Its the same thing with wish/miracle. Ultimately it IS up to the DM, but it would be a joke if the DM let him have it. I mean, you bend or in some cases you say it is allowed, but then you limit him because it is too powerfull? If it was meant to do it in the beginning, it would have been either stated in the book, OR would have had a limit already implemented in the book like ability bonuses. And about the pit fiend, are you telling me you go around and give the monster XP's to determine what they can wish for? A MM base pit fiend doesn't have class levels. So does that mean it can't use wish unless it had classes so that it had XP? And either way, a monster of that stature could do the same things a PC can do when they have wish. They cast wish, and in his case go beat down some demons in the BW and recast next year. In the lord of the iron fortress, i think a genie does it to his giant counterpart or slave. He raises his abilities. I don't hink anybody will lose sleep over the fact that you ignore the xp for monsters casting wish. [/QUOTE]
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