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To the Official Folks: How will Wishes affect Feats?
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<blockquote data-quote="Arravis" data-source="post: 282632" data-attributes="member: 327"><p>** I know it makes no mention of that in the PHB, but neither does it say you can. As far as i understand it, unless it explicitly says it in the rule books, you can't do it.**</p><p></p><p>Wish is an open ended spell with no specifics, how can you possibly claim this? I don't understand that at all. That doesn't mean that is has unlimited power, but it CAN do almost anything. It might distort, it might limit in duration, etc, but it'll do something not just what's in the PHB.</p><p></p><p>**Ultimately it IS up to the DM, but it would be a joke if the DM let him have it.**</p><p></p><p>Why would it be a joke for a DM to allow a player to wish for a feat? I limit it to two total wishes. I don't think it's a joke, it sounds pretty damn reasonable to me. It doesn't to you, that's your call. But there's absolutely nothing in the description of the spell to say that either you or I are wrong. It's the DM's call.</p><p></p><p>**If it was meant to do it in the beginning, it would have been either stated in the book, OR would have had a limit already implemented in the book like ability bonuses.**</p><p></p><p>Items can grant stat bonuses, items can also grant feats. I don't see a problem, I actually see an established presidence (sp?).</p><p></p><p>**And about the pit fiend, are you telling me you go around and give the monster XP's to determine what they can wish for?**</p><p></p><p>I don't keep tight track no, but XP costs are XP costs, why should it hurt less for NPC's? That seems more then a bit unfair. XP=life energy, no one gives up their very life and soul essence easily. Even the gods have limits on XP (Deities and Demigods has rules on this), so yeah, there is a limit.</p><p></p><p>**I don't hink anybody will lose sleep over the fact that you ignore the xp for monsters casting wish.**</p><p></p><p>Well, I try to make a fair and realistic world when I DM, where the NPC's don't have unfair advantages over the PC's.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Arravis, post: 282632, member: 327"] ** I know it makes no mention of that in the PHB, but neither does it say you can. As far as i understand it, unless it explicitly says it in the rule books, you can't do it.** Wish is an open ended spell with no specifics, how can you possibly claim this? I don't understand that at all. That doesn't mean that is has unlimited power, but it CAN do almost anything. It might distort, it might limit in duration, etc, but it'll do something not just what's in the PHB. **Ultimately it IS up to the DM, but it would be a joke if the DM let him have it.** Why would it be a joke for a DM to allow a player to wish for a feat? I limit it to two total wishes. I don't think it's a joke, it sounds pretty damn reasonable to me. It doesn't to you, that's your call. But there's absolutely nothing in the description of the spell to say that either you or I are wrong. It's the DM's call. **If it was meant to do it in the beginning, it would have been either stated in the book, OR would have had a limit already implemented in the book like ability bonuses.** Items can grant stat bonuses, items can also grant feats. I don't see a problem, I actually see an established presidence (sp?). **And about the pit fiend, are you telling me you go around and give the monster XP's to determine what they can wish for?** I don't keep tight track no, but XP costs are XP costs, why should it hurt less for NPC's? That seems more then a bit unfair. XP=life energy, no one gives up their very life and soul essence easily. Even the gods have limits on XP (Deities and Demigods has rules on this), so yeah, there is a limit. **I don't hink anybody will lose sleep over the fact that you ignore the xp for monsters casting wish.** Well, I try to make a fair and realistic world when I DM, where the NPC's don't have unfair advantages over the PC's. [/QUOTE]
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