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<blockquote data-quote="Elethiomel" data-source="post: 3392339" data-attributes="member: 49897">Yeah. This supports my point that moving your full speed and hustling should suffer the exact same penalties.Yeah. Consider a Monk, though. Say a 9th level human monk. A 9th level human monk has a movement of 60'. So half speed is 30' or less. Less than full but more than half is 35'-55'. Full speed is 60'. Double moving (&quot;hustling&quot;) gets you between 65' and 120'. Running is 125'-480'. I think it is utterly nonsensical that the *exact* full speed (60') should have a different penalty than large ranges on both sides of it. In this case the ranges are a 20' per round range on one side and a 55' per round range on the other side, but this specific speed - a 5' range by the combat grid rules - has a different penalty than both.Yeah. But it doesn't say in the Move Silently description what sort of action it is. I assume it is part of the &quot;Move&quot; action, which is a move-equivalent action (big surprise there), and so moving &quot;more than half but less than your full speed&quot; would be hustling, since you're using a move action to do so. Hence my argument for a -5 penalty when hustling (since as I detail above, I think a separate penalty for exactly your full speed is nonsensical).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Elethiomel, post: 3392339, member: 49897"] Yeah. This supports my point that moving your full speed and hustling should suffer the exact same penalties. Yeah. Consider a Monk, though. Say a 9th level human monk. A 9th level human monk has a movement of 60'. So half speed is 30' or less. Less than full but more than half is 35'-55'. Full speed is 60'. Double moving ("hustling") gets you between 65' and 120'. Running is 125'-480'. I think it is utterly nonsensical that the *exact* full speed (60') should have a different penalty than large ranges on both sides of it. In this case the ranges are a 20' per round range on one side and a 55' per round range on the other side, but this specific speed - a 5' range by the combat grid rules - has a different penalty than both. Yeah. But it doesn't say in the Move Silently description what sort of action it is. I assume it is part of the "Move" action, which is a move-equivalent action (big surprise there), and so moving "more than half but less than your full speed" would be hustling, since you're using a move action to do so. Hence my argument for a -5 penalty when hustling (since as I detail above, I think a separate penalty for exactly your full speed is nonsensical). [/QUOTE]

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