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<blockquote data-quote="Abe.ebA" data-source="post: 3738845" data-attributes="member: 32545"><p>You neglected to include a part where you explained a solution to the problem. </p><p></p><p>Any girls interested in 4e at this, vastly-pre-release, point are presumably already familiar with 3e. As such, they already know about the narrative aspects of the game and about character customization. Since all of the 4e press so-far has been aimed at convincing current players that the move to 4e will be a step up from the current edition, what else besides rules differences should they include? Info about encounter design and character design pretty much embodies the totality of crunch in d&d, which is what's going to be changing between editions. You could feasibly keep exactly the same fluff material from 3e (or 2e or 1e or whatever) and just re-write the crunchy back-end to make the transition to 4e. So why should WotC include sketches of new iconic characters, evocative place/thing/person/action names, or descriptions about how intricate your character can be when preaching the benefits of the new crunch system to players already familiar with the fluff aspects?</p><p></p><p>If you have any suggestions regarding getting girls into gaming or aspects of the new edition that might do it (simplified character design would actually probably help, provided that you pitch it as "y'know, you can make a character in like 5 minutes and see if you like the game" rather than, "WotC thinks you're a moron because you're a girl, so they're taking away all the BigHardMath and putting it in the boy box") I'd like to hear them. I'm not WotC, but I do have a lot of female friends who don't game that could drastically increase my pool of potential players if they were interested.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Abe.ebA, post: 3738845, member: 32545"] You neglected to include a part where you explained a solution to the problem. Any girls interested in 4e at this, vastly-pre-release, point are presumably already familiar with 3e. As such, they already know about the narrative aspects of the game and about character customization. Since all of the 4e press so-far has been aimed at convincing current players that the move to 4e will be a step up from the current edition, what else besides rules differences should they include? Info about encounter design and character design pretty much embodies the totality of crunch in d&d, which is what's going to be changing between editions. You could feasibly keep exactly the same fluff material from 3e (or 2e or 1e or whatever) and just re-write the crunchy back-end to make the transition to 4e. So why should WotC include sketches of new iconic characters, evocative place/thing/person/action names, or descriptions about how intricate your character can be when preaching the benefits of the new crunch system to players already familiar with the fluff aspects? If you have any suggestions regarding getting girls into gaming or aspects of the new edition that might do it (simplified character design would actually probably help, provided that you pitch it as "y'know, you can make a character in like 5 minutes and see if you like the game" rather than, "WotC thinks you're a moron because you're a girl, so they're taking away all the BigHardMath and putting it in the boy box") I'd like to hear them. I'm not WotC, but I do have a lot of female friends who don't game that could drastically increase my pool of potential players if they were interested. [/QUOTE]
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