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<blockquote data-quote="Nifft" data-source="post: 3420888" data-attributes="member: 6562"><p>To be fair, one to four levels of Barbarian, Ranger or even Fighter are just as good for a Rogue (relative to Rog20). No Rogue with a positive Int bonus would ever take level 20 if he could take a level of Barbarian, Fighter or Ranger instead. Levels 13, 16 and 19 are perfect exit points. Especially 13 and 16, so he can have BAB +16 at level 20.</p><p></p><p>As to the Fighter... Ha ha ha! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> He's still a great dip class, and there are feats in PHB-II which make it worth taking either 4 or 18 levels. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>There are some variant rules which could make the Fighter a better choice... for example, allow Fighter levels to act like Martial PrC levels -- you add ALL of them (not half) to your other Martial Adept class levels to determine your Initiator Level.</p><p></p><p>"Fighter: the new NPC class." <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>Thanks, -- N</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nifft, post: 3420888, member: 6562"] To be fair, one to four levels of Barbarian, Ranger or even Fighter are just as good for a Rogue (relative to Rog20). No Rogue with a positive Int bonus would ever take level 20 if he could take a level of Barbarian, Fighter or Ranger instead. Levels 13, 16 and 19 are perfect exit points. Especially 13 and 16, so he can have BAB +16 at level 20. As to the Fighter... Ha ha ha! :) He's still a great dip class, and there are feats in PHB-II which make it worth taking either 4 or 18 levels. ;) There are some variant rules which could make the Fighter a better choice... for example, allow Fighter levels to act like Martial PrC levels -- you add ALL of them (not half) to your other Martial Adept class levels to determine your Initiator Level. "Fighter: the new NPC class." ;) Thanks, -- N [/QUOTE]
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