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<blockquote data-quote="Arkhandus" data-source="post: 3444912" data-attributes="member: 13966"><p>Well, like I said, I don't own a copy of ToB so I know very little specific about its mechanics and such. Regarding Stunning Fist, I just thought it wasn't very useful with the extremely limited number of touch attack Strikes in the Crescent Moon style (and I had forgotten 3.5 monks don't base their stunning attack DC on monk level and Wisdom only, unlike 3.0).</p><p></p><p>Most of its Strikes are normal melee attacks, though I did miss that Laughing Moon Reaver would actually benefit from combining with SF (I thought it just involved messing with a person's items, and didn't at first realize it could confer SF's effect to the person carrying those items). So I guess that makes 3 Strikes that receive some benefit from Falling Moon? (the other one you mentioned is a normal melee attack, so it would already be useable with SF and an unarmed strike even without Falling Moon, I think)</p><p></p><p>I haven't seen any Setting Sun maneuvers yet (only game I've been in with a ToB class in it has been a Sunday game with one guy playing a Swordsage, and he's focused on Diamond Mind and Shadow Hand, and something I think, Desert Wind or somesuch with a flaming strike he's used twice), so I don't know if it has more touch attacks involved in its maneuvers.</p><p></p><p>I didn't have any problem with delivering SF through touch attacks, I just thought it was limited to 2 Strikes far apart in level (one that I thought would be redundant with SF). So NM on that. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/nervous.png" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":heh:" title="Nervous Laugh :heh:" data-shortname=":heh:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Arkhandus, post: 3444912, member: 13966"] Well, like I said, I don't own a copy of ToB so I know very little specific about its mechanics and such. Regarding Stunning Fist, I just thought it wasn't very useful with the extremely limited number of touch attack Strikes in the Crescent Moon style (and I had forgotten 3.5 monks don't base their stunning attack DC on monk level and Wisdom only, unlike 3.0). Most of its Strikes are normal melee attacks, though I did miss that Laughing Moon Reaver would actually benefit from combining with SF (I thought it just involved messing with a person's items, and didn't at first realize it could confer SF's effect to the person carrying those items). So I guess that makes 3 Strikes that receive some benefit from Falling Moon? (the other one you mentioned is a normal melee attack, so it would already be useable with SF and an unarmed strike even without Falling Moon, I think) I haven't seen any Setting Sun maneuvers yet (only game I've been in with a ToB class in it has been a Sunday game with one guy playing a Swordsage, and he's focused on Diamond Mind and Shadow Hand, and something I think, Desert Wind or somesuch with a flaming strike he's used twice), so I don't know if it has more touch attacks involved in its maneuvers. I didn't have any problem with delivering SF through touch attacks, I just thought it was limited to 2 Strikes far apart in level (one that I thought would be redundant with SF). So NM on that. :heh: [/QUOTE]
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