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Message: <blockquote data-quote="hamishspence" data-source="post: 3474045" data-attributes="member: 41555">Crusaders get their last stance at 14th level. This means they cannot take 8th level stances without either multiclassing or taking Martial Study + Martial stance (prerequisite)And according to Sage Advice in Dragon, you can't delay learning a stance. So a basic crusader can't even take a 8th level stance from devoted Spirit, which is unique to him of the 3 classes.Swordsages have a similar problem, not quite as bad: they can't take any 8th level stances till 20th level, without multiclassing/taking feats.Warblades haven't much to complain about, apart from: being required to take 1st level stance as second stance, since they get it 1 level before 3rd level stances become available.Is this a significant problem, or a method of balancing the classes?I personally would modify the stance progression, OR allow delay in learning 1 stance, 1 level only, to fix this problem.Views?</blockquote>