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<blockquote data-quote="Nail" data-source="post: 3845899" data-attributes="member: 224">We've been playing my new campaign for 14 months.&nbsp; We started at 1st level, and now the PCs are 9th (-ish).&nbsp; 16th level is still quite a ways off.&nbsp; Mind blank is hardly a relevant point, at least for us.&nbsp; Neither is the &quot;He'll never use it&quot; argument (IMO).&nbsp; It's kinda like saying nuclear warheads are not a balance issue, 'cause no one but the U.S.A. has ever used them.&nbsp; <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/nervous.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":heh:" title="Nervous Laugh&nbsp; &nbsp; :heh:" data-shortname=":heh:" /> I spent about 4 levels of playing time throwing multiple -Will save encounters at the party, to challenge the Warblade.&nbsp; Generally speaking, making the Warblade (with Moment of Perfect Mind) break a sweat required 3 Will saves in 3 rounds.Honestly, how often can that happen without looking contrived?&nbsp; <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/devious.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":]" title="Devious&nbsp; &nbsp; :]" data-shortname=":]" /> Moreover, that meant the other party memebers were even more likely to fail the Will saves.&nbsp; So, to make the Warblade sweat, I had to hose the rest of the PCs.&nbsp; Very unfun.....so finally I nerfed the manuever.&nbsp; It's just not worth the trouble.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Nail, post: 3845899, member: 224"] We've been playing my new campaign for 14 months. We started at 1st level, and now the PCs are 9th (-ish). 16th level is still quite a ways off. Mind blank is hardly a relevant point, at least for us. Neither is the "He'll never use it" argument (IMO). It's kinda like saying nuclear warheads are not a balance issue, 'cause no one but the U.S.A. has ever used them. :heh: I spent about 4 levels of playing time throwing multiple -Will save encounters at the party, to challenge the Warblade. Generally speaking, making the Warblade (with Moment of Perfect Mind) break a sweat required 3 Will saves in 3 rounds. Honestly, how often can that happen without looking contrived? :] Moreover, that meant the other party memebers were even [u]more[/u] likely to fail the Will saves. So, to make the Warblade sweat, I had to hose the rest of the PCs. Very unfun.....so finally I nerfed the manuever. It's just not worth the trouble. [/QUOTE]

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