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<blockquote data-quote="StreamOfTheSky" data-source="post: 5848251" data-attributes="member: 35909"><p>1) I don't know, and it's a shame. I love the PrC, but in a game that's going to high levels, the Lightning Throw maneuver (my favorite in the book) > that entire class. IMO, it should advance IL and give a stunted growth of maneuvers learned so you can still pick up Lightning Throw and the like.</p><p>At least, that PrC is focused on throwing, which few WBs are, so it's safe to ignore it completely. And it's not like every discipline even GOT a prestige class linked to it. Only a few do, some PrCs cover multiple ones together, like Shadow Sun Ninja.</p><p></p><p>2) I don't know. I'd allow extra readied maneuver past 1st level (or at 1 if you also took martial study). But RAW, only swordsages can. You missed the most damning "wtf?!" in feats, though. Check out Scribe Martial Script. Apparently Iron Heart scripts don't exist. Seriously, WTF?!!!!</p><p></p><p>3) Snap Kick exists because unarmed fighting is underpowered. That said, at later levels when you can get it, the <a href="http://dndtools.eu/feats/players-handbook-ii--80/slashing-flurry--2644/" target="_blank">Slashing Flurry</a> feat from PHB is excellent w/ strike maneuvers. First is at -5 and 2nd is at -10 (but it's full BAB, so eh) and the second hit is just a normal melee attack. Still, killer awesome, you should look into it.</p><p></p><p>It's a major problem. I'm one of those who says to allow it delayed till level 5. As it stands, most of my warblades (including the level 5 one I currently am playing) purposely dip out of WB for 2 levels before WB 4 specifically because of this reason. It sucks, definitely. On the plus side, that's the only discrepency for WB. Check out the poor Crusader's stance progression, they're all kinds of effed up. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /></p><p></p><p></p><p>EDIT: To be fair, you did not state one of the greatest benefits WB has over the other adepts: he gets access to BOTH of the hands-down best maneuvers in the book, IH Surge and WR Tactics. IMO, that is a huge benefit.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="StreamOfTheSky, post: 5848251, member: 35909"] 1) I don't know, and it's a shame. I love the PrC, but in a game that's going to high levels, the Lightning Throw maneuver (my favorite in the book) > that entire class. IMO, it should advance IL and give a stunted growth of maneuvers learned so you can still pick up Lightning Throw and the like. At least, that PrC is focused on throwing, which few WBs are, so it's safe to ignore it completely. And it's not like every discipline even GOT a prestige class linked to it. Only a few do, some PrCs cover multiple ones together, like Shadow Sun Ninja. 2) I don't know. I'd allow extra readied maneuver past 1st level (or at 1 if you also took martial study). But RAW, only swordsages can. You missed the most damning "wtf?!" in feats, though. Check out Scribe Martial Script. Apparently Iron Heart scripts don't exist. Seriously, WTF?!!!! 3) Snap Kick exists because unarmed fighting is underpowered. That said, at later levels when you can get it, the [url=http://dndtools.eu/feats/players-handbook-ii--80/slashing-flurry--2644/]Slashing Flurry[/url] feat from PHB is excellent w/ strike maneuvers. First is at -5 and 2nd is at -10 (but it's full BAB, so eh) and the second hit is just a normal melee attack. Still, killer awesome, you should look into it. It's a major problem. I'm one of those who says to allow it delayed till level 5. As it stands, most of my warblades (including the level 5 one I currently am playing) purposely dip out of WB for 2 levels before WB 4 specifically because of this reason. It sucks, definitely. On the plus side, that's the only discrepency for WB. Check out the poor Crusader's stance progression, they're all kinds of effed up. :( EDIT: To be fair, you did not state one of the greatest benefits WB has over the other adepts: he gets access to BOTH of the hands-down best maneuvers in the book, IH Surge and WR Tactics. IMO, that is a huge benefit. [/QUOTE]
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