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<blockquote data-quote="was_fired" data-source="post: 4399246" data-attributes="member: 74493">I haven't played either but as far as I understand it from TOCC players who have played these systems.&nbsp; Character design flexibility is weaker than GURPS, but you can make characters faster and combat moves more quickly.&nbsp; I would also say the system is less versatile than GURPS, but I'm not sure since I haven't played it.&nbsp; From what I understand GURPS also slows down actions by adding multiple rolls to a single action while TOCC does not.&nbsp; After a quick googling of GURPS I also saw that a common complaint was that it has too many rules.&nbsp; Despite the sheer size of the rulebook TOCC doesn't actually have all that many rules, and most of the rules use internally consistent mechanics to make your game go smoothly.As for Exalted the flavor in TOCC is weaker than Exalted since there is no predefined setting that establishs the grand conflict of the gods and the history of mankind.&nbsp; Likewise TOCC doesn't immediately assume your character is awsome like Exalted, you have to earn it and make a good character.&nbsp; There are no minion or extra rules in TOCC.&nbsp; There are just weaker enemies, and if you want to take them out quickly you need to deal enough damage to do so fair and square.&nbsp; Now TOCC doesn't have any major thematic effects like burning essense so if that's your thing Exalted wins there.&nbsp; TOCC doesn't have any upper limits unlike Exalted so your character really can become utterly amazing at something.&nbsp; Likewise there is no such thing as a perfect defense, because someone can always break it.&nbsp; I know Exalted allows you to respond to enemy actions on some level outside of your turn, but I don't think it beats TOCC in this regard.&nbsp; Of course since Exalted is primarily a story telling system there are ways around this that the rules don't mention.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="was_fired, post: 4399246, member: 74493"] I haven't played either but as far as I understand it from TOCC players who have played these systems. Character design flexibility is weaker than GURPS, but you can make characters faster and combat moves more quickly. I would also say the system is less versatile than GURPS, but I'm not sure since I haven't played it. From what I understand GURPS also slows down actions by adding multiple rolls to a single action while TOCC does not. After a quick googling of GURPS I also saw that a common complaint was that it has too many rules. Despite the sheer size of the rulebook TOCC doesn't actually have all that many rules, and most of the rules use internally consistent mechanics to make your game go smoothly. As for Exalted the flavor in TOCC is weaker than Exalted since there is no predefined setting that establishs the grand conflict of the gods and the history of mankind. Likewise TOCC doesn't immediately assume your character is awsome like Exalted, you have to earn it and make a good character. There are no minion or extra rules in TOCC. There are just weaker enemies, and if you want to take them out quickly you need to deal enough damage to do so fair and square. Now TOCC doesn't have any major thematic effects like burning essense so if that's your thing Exalted wins there. TOCC doesn't have any upper limits unlike Exalted so your character really can become utterly amazing at something. Likewise there is no such thing as a perfect defense, because someone can always break it. I know Exalted allows you to respond to enemy actions on some level outside of your turn, but I don't think it beats TOCC in this regard. Of course since Exalted is primarily a story telling system there are ways around this that the rules don't mention. [/QUOTE]

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