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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 8237388" data-attributes="member: 93670">Something that might help with some ECs is how the EC itself affects local wildlife, are they trying to flee in panic, mutating/evolving from the EC, being replaced by extraplanar invasive species&nbsp; wandering in across from the manifest zone/ritual site/etc type stuff when relevantI'm going to agree that in o5e a treant (or even 4 of them) has not really even been a speedbump to a 17th level PC for a long time[spoiler][ATTACH=full]135004[/ATTACH][/spoiler]Going by the xge multiple monster tables it lists cr9 creatures as something that should be 2 players:1 cr9 creature so it could be LOLdeadly, but the bard healing seems to be pretty hit die limited &amp; I don't think we've seen cure wounds type spells or enough on rests to know how easy or hard recovery would be.&nbsp; Hopefully it's not so much LOLdeadly as clear &amp; more of an immediate &quot;oh. my. god... trynottobreathebackupveryveryslowlybob&quot;&nbsp; where creativity needs to be used</blockquote>

[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 8237388, member: 93670"] Something that might help with [I]some[/I] ECs is how the EC itself affects local wildlife, are they trying to flee in panic, mutating/evolving from the EC, being replaced by extraplanar invasive species wandering in across from the manifest zone/ritual site/etc type stuff when relevant I'm going to agree that in o5e a treant (or even 4 of them) has not really even been a speedbump to a 17th level PC for a long time [spoiler] [ATTACH type="full"]135004[/ATTACH] [/spoiler] Going by the xge multiple monster tables it lists cr9 creatures as something that should be 2 players:1 cr9 creature so it could be LOLdeadly, but the bard healing seems to be pretty hit die limited & I don't think we've seen cure wounds type spells or enough on rests to know how easy or hard recovery would be. Hopefully it's not so much LOLdeadly as clear & more of an immediate "oh. my. god... trynottobreathebackupveryveryslowlybob" where creativity needs to be used [/QUOTE]

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