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<blockquote data-quote="fusangite" data-source="post: 584517" data-attributes="member: 7240"><p>If one were to adapt Tolkien elves into D&D rules -- something that is basically impossible, they would need a horrendous ECL. For a start, they are simultaneously present and aware on the material, shadow and ethereal planes. </p><p></p><p>However, rules aside, I think considering the idea of the Tolkienesque idea of racial nobility is very much worth considering, especially as it seemed, based on the last movie, to sail right over Peter Jackson's head. Such ideas cannot simply be applied to one race without consideration for the general theme and structure of the world, though. I wouldn't go that route unless I were going to accept the more general Tolkien premise about the nature of goodness and nobility.</p><p></p><p>As for ideas about how to run elves, I have tried a few in addition to those already canvassed. Only two are really worthy of note:</p><p></p><p>1. The Greg Stafford/Glorantha elves: In Stafford's world, dwarves are humanoid incarnations of stone and elves, humanoid incarnations of plants. Gloranthan elves therefore are especially vulnerable to fire and think in a strangely plant-like way.</p><p></p><p>2. Modern elves: I believe there are elves in the modern world; most women (and many men e.g. Tom Cruise) on TV and in movies fall into this category -- between 4'10" and 5'5" with incredibly fine features, slight build, abnormally thin with an eerily powerful presence/charisma that makes people stare at them. These creatures are flighty and capricious and have intense, short-term interactions with people -- mainly other elves but occasionally humans.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="fusangite, post: 584517, member: 7240"] If one were to adapt Tolkien elves into D&D rules -- something that is basically impossible, they would need a horrendous ECL. For a start, they are simultaneously present and aware on the material, shadow and ethereal planes. However, rules aside, I think considering the idea of the Tolkienesque idea of racial nobility is very much worth considering, especially as it seemed, based on the last movie, to sail right over Peter Jackson's head. Such ideas cannot simply be applied to one race without consideration for the general theme and structure of the world, though. I wouldn't go that route unless I were going to accept the more general Tolkien premise about the nature of goodness and nobility. As for ideas about how to run elves, I have tried a few in addition to those already canvassed. Only two are really worthy of note: 1. The Greg Stafford/Glorantha elves: In Stafford's world, dwarves are humanoid incarnations of stone and elves, humanoid incarnations of plants. Gloranthan elves therefore are especially vulnerable to fire and think in a strangely plant-like way. 2. Modern elves: I believe there are elves in the modern world; most women (and many men e.g. Tom Cruise) on TV and in movies fall into this category -- between 4'10" and 5'5" with incredibly fine features, slight build, abnormally thin with an eerily powerful presence/charisma that makes people stare at them. These creatures are flighty and capricious and have intense, short-term interactions with people -- mainly other elves but occasionally humans. [/QUOTE]
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