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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Paul Farquhar" data-source="post: 8683355" data-attributes="member: 6906155">The DM determines who might be surprised. If neither side tries to be stealthy, they automatically notice each other.-Core RulesThe mimic is not trying to stealth, therefore there is no surprise round. Everyone takes there turn as normal. However, the PCs may not be aware of what they are fighting, and therefore not know what to target. Example below. If the players touch the mimic before combat starts, then they make a save against being stuck - this does not require an initiative roll, it happens outside of combat.Huge Spoiler for Rime of the Frostmaiden:[SPOILER="Huge Spoiler for Rime of the Frostmaiden"]In Chapter 7 of Rime of the Frostmaiden. The party are searching a museum. They enter a pillared hall with a stuffed Phaerimm hanging from the ceiling. The ranger says "I take cover behind one of the pillars and shoot at the thing hanging from the ceiling". Initiative is rolled, and the ranger puts a couple of arrows into the very dead phaerimm. Then the giant spitting mimics which where disguised as pillars take their turn...[/SPOILER]</blockquote>