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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 8689258" data-attributes="member: 23751">No.  A troll isn't channeling schrodinger.  It's not simultaneously a threat and not a threat until it is determined whether a combat will happen.  It is either a threat the entire time, even while peacefully walking by or it isn't a threat the entire time and becomes a threat if circumstances lead to combat.No.  Between the ability and lore, it's clear that a mere +5 on stealth is not even remotely sufficient to keep it from being discovered in the vast majority of instances.  Hell, that's barely sufficient to be above 50%.  Assuming an average roll of 11, it would take a proficient PC with a meager +1 wisdom bonus a roll of 13 or higher to detect the mimic.  That doesn't jive with..."Imitative Predators. Mimics can alter their outward texture to resemble wood, stone, and other basic materials, and they have evolved to assume the appearance of objects that other creatures are likely to come into contact with. A mimic in its altered form is nearly unrecognizable until potential prey blunders into its reach, whereupon the monster sprouts pseudopods and attacks."and..."False Appearance (Object Form Only). While the mimic remains motionless, it is indistinguishable from an ordinary object."A mimic would need at a minimum +10, and probably higher to match that lore.  If it needed to roll anyway, which it doesn't.  Nowhere in the mimic rules does it say that it has to make a stealth check to be indistinguishable. That's a homebrew rule that you are adding to the mimic stat block.The mimic has literally evolved to be able to alter its shape and remain motionless. It doesn't need to roll to be still.Yes it does. Vision is interacting when it comes to deception.  I quoted it earlier in the thread, but deception requires nothing more than appearance.  Inaction is an action.  It's trying to fool you with its disguise, not with its stealth.You have yet to prove that stealth is anything a mimic needs to engage in to fool people.  You've assumed it a whole lot, but there's nothing in the mimic write-up to back you up on this.</blockquote>

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