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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mirtek" data-source="post: 7724743" data-attributes="member: 40810">And the benefit of a fighter is heavy armor proficiency. And by just adding penalties the game normally doesn't have you are taking away an ability of theirs. So if you don't want to take anyone's ability away, all just get the vanilla rules treatment. And the game explicitly hives rules as how characters wearing heavy armor are affected by the environment. That's a specific rule overriding the basic laws of realism.Monks/Barbarians are so awesome that they can fight naked, realism be damned. Fighters are so awesome that they just shrug off heat (as long as the drink enough, and given their con saves probably even if they don't), reaslism be damned.Both backed by explicit rules passages. But one is seem as OK, the second as an abomination that needs to be changed.</blockquote>