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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 5578976" data-attributes="member: 177">I haven't looked at the module in years (maybe I'll review it when I get home), but I think I have something to note along Bullgrit's line here.&quot;Consistent&quot; does not imply &quot;predictable&quot;.&nbsp; Whether or not a thing is predictable depends on how much of what information you have.&nbsp; What you can see as a GM is much different than what a player can see.&nbsp; The GM, with all the information at his disposal, may feel it is predictable, while a player in situ won't have the information to make the same prediction with confidence at the time he needs to make a decision.&nbsp; Remember the player only gets information through trial and error, and errors are generally deadly in this scenario. For example, if a module is consistent in that left turns always lead to deadly traps, the GM can see that because he can see all the turns at once, and know what they lead to.&nbsp; The player, however, can't make the same prediction until after he's taken both the left and right branches several times, to see the pattern, losing several party members in the process (how many points of consistency do you expect them to divine before they run out of party members?).And, powers help you if the descriptions also have it that the deadly traps they've seen so far are also in rooms with grey stone walls, or maybe it was always that the elf was in front when they entered the deadly areas, and they decide the maker hated elves.&nbsp; I don't think it reasonable to expect the players will see which bits of information are the right ones to cue off off until they're already well into the module.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 5578976, member: 177"] I haven't looked at the module in years (maybe I'll review it when I get home), but I think I have something to note along Bullgrit's line here. "Consistent" does not imply "predictable". Whether or not a thing is predictable depends on how much of what information you have. What you can see as a GM is much different than what a player can see. The GM, with all the information at his disposal, may feel it is predictable, while a player [I]in situ[/I] won't have the information to make the same prediction with confidence at the time he needs to make a decision. Remember the player only gets information through trial and error, and errors are generally deadly in this scenario. For example, if a module is consistent in that left turns always lead to deadly traps, the GM can see that because he can see all the turns at once, and know what they lead to. The player, however, can't make the same prediction until after he's taken both the left and right branches several times, to see the pattern, losing several party members in the process (how many points of consistency do you expect them to divine before they run out of party members?). And, powers help you if the descriptions also have it that the deadly traps they've seen so far are also in rooms with grey stone walls, or maybe it was always that the elf was in front when they entered the deadly areas, and they decide the maker hated elves. I don't think it reasonable to expect the players will see which bits of information are the right ones to cue off off until they're already well into the module. [/QUOTE]

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