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<blockquote data-quote="brehobit" data-source="post: 3253833" data-attributes="member: 12032">I personally think the warblade is the weakest of the three Bo9S classes, but I do disagree with some of your points:I think some of the feats are anything but weak.&nbsp; Blade Meditation, blind-fight, combat reflexes, improved Initiative, and White Raven Defense are all good feats.&nbsp; Blind-fight, combat reflexes and improved initiative are VERY commonly taken by fighters IME.&nbsp; Blade meditation is _huge_ for tiger claw and diamond mind.&nbsp; The skill bonus and the +1 DC bonus is huge.&nbsp; The +1 damage bonus for strikes is just icing.&nbsp; White Raven Defense can generally give you AND your adjacent allies an unnamed +1 AC bonus.&nbsp; That sure beats any other AC boosting feat I know of.&nbsp; Some of the others suck, but hey, you only get 4 of them, so 5 good ones is plenty.Badly?&nbsp; They add one stat over a barbarian, INT.&nbsp; And a 12 or 14 is just fine. There is some MAD, but it really isn't too bad. If that is a really big issue, most of the time a single level dip into fighter will solve it (and throw in a bonus feat to boot).&nbsp; IME this pretty minor as heavy armor fighters seem pretty rare unless they are dwarven or always mounted.Where I think warblades are really broken is a one-level dip after 8th level.&nbsp; The one-level dip would allow you to:Give whole party +2 to damage against flanked opponents (Tactics of the wolf)Usually allow an ally to take a second action (White Raven Tactics)Use conentration in place of will save (Moment of perfect mind)XXXX (mostly useless white raven 1st level maneuver to allow the first two) Add your INT bonus to your reflex save (1st level warblade power)Tack on the extra hit point, 2 extra skill points, and skill list choices this is a really nice dip.&nbsp; Losing 1 fighter level is really pretty minor in exchange for what you get...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="brehobit, post: 3253833, member: 12032"] I personally think the warblade is the weakest of the three Bo9S classes, but I do disagree with some of your points: I think some of the feats are anything but weak. Blade Meditation, blind-fight, combat reflexes, improved Initiative, and White Raven Defense are all good feats. Blind-fight, combat reflexes and improved initiative are VERY commonly taken by fighters IME. Blade meditation is _huge_ for tiger claw and diamond mind. The skill bonus and the +1 DC bonus is huge. The +1 damage bonus for strikes is just icing. White Raven Defense can generally give you AND your adjacent allies an unnamed +1 AC bonus. That sure beats any other AC boosting feat I know of. Some of the others suck, but hey, you only get 4 of them, so 5 good ones is plenty. Badly? They add one stat over a barbarian, INT. And a 12 or 14 is just fine. There is some MAD, but it really isn't too bad. If that is a really big issue, most of the time a single level dip into fighter will solve it (and throw in a bonus feat to boot). IME this pretty minor as heavy armor fighters seem pretty rare unless they are dwarven or always mounted. Where I think warblades are really broken is a one-level dip after 8th level. The one-level dip would allow you to: Give whole party +2 to damage against flanked opponents (Tactics of the wolf) Usually allow an ally to take a second action (White Raven Tactics) Use conentration in place of will save (Moment of perfect mind) XXXX (mostly useless white raven 1st level maneuver to allow the first two) Add your INT bonus to your reflex save (1st level warblade power) Tack on the extra hit point, 2 extra skill points, and skill list choices this is a really nice dip. Losing 1 fighter level is really pretty minor in exchange for what you get... [/QUOTE]

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