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Tome of Battle: Bo9S classes in actual play?
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<blockquote data-quote="(Psi)SeveredHead" data-source="post: 3254055" data-attributes="member: 1165"><p>Nope. Not that I noticed. My character would have cheerfully taken an Int 10 and Cha 8. I only took a higher Cha (12) because of my character concept (using White Raven, which did <em>not</em> require Charisma, and except for one feat didn't even require Diplomacy).</p><p></p><p>I complained before about the short skill list. I don't think a high Int is that useful when it comes to skills. A lower Int would actually make designing the character easier - I don't want to be "forced" to take ranks in Balance (no matter how useful it might be) when it doesn't fit my character concept.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I didn't take IHS. I did take the counter that lets me use Concentration for Will saves. That thing is amazing! It didn't bother me that I had to give up 25% of my maneuvers because it's so useful!</p><p></p><p>It's like a wizard complaining that they have to give up an 8th-level spell slot to cast Moment of Prescience. If you accept it as balanced, then take it. If you think it's weak, don't take it.</p><p></p><p>I think the Concentration as Will save counter is balanced, not overpowered or broken (unlike certain other maneuvers or parts-of-the-package). You can only use it once per round, and probably aren't going to use it more than once per combat (unless the combat takes a long time and you recharge, and the recharge scheme is kind of overpowered, IMO).</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It didn't seem like that to me. Maybe I just think not failing Will saves to be worth it. I know I didn't want to be blinded (by Glitterdust), or frightened, or shaken, or a zillion other conditions on the battlefield.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I didn't even glance at that class, actually.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I wonder if that was the thing I thought might be broken? The one with RAI vs RAW - is that the one where you might get an extra action, depending on your exact initiative? Or is that the Diplomacy DC 20 feat?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="(Psi)SeveredHead, post: 3254055, member: 1165"] Nope. Not that I noticed. My character would have cheerfully taken an Int 10 and Cha 8. I only took a higher Cha (12) because of my character concept (using White Raven, which did [i]not[/i] require Charisma, and except for one feat didn't even require Diplomacy). I complained before about the short skill list. I don't think a high Int is that useful when it comes to skills. A lower Int would actually make designing the character easier - I don't want to be "forced" to take ranks in Balance (no matter how useful it might be) when it doesn't fit my character concept. I didn't take IHS. I did take the counter that lets me use Concentration for Will saves. That thing is amazing! It didn't bother me that I had to give up 25% of my maneuvers because it's so useful! It's like a wizard complaining that they have to give up an 8th-level spell slot to cast Moment of Prescience. If you accept it as balanced, then take it. If you think it's weak, don't take it. I think the Concentration as Will save counter is balanced, not overpowered or broken (unlike certain other maneuvers or parts-of-the-package). You can only use it once per round, and probably aren't going to use it more than once per combat (unless the combat takes a long time and you recharge, and the recharge scheme is kind of overpowered, IMO). It didn't seem like that to me. Maybe I just think not failing Will saves to be worth it. I know I didn't want to be blinded (by Glitterdust), or frightened, or shaken, or a zillion other conditions on the battlefield. I didn't even glance at that class, actually. I wonder if that was the thing I thought might be broken? The one with RAI vs RAW - is that the one where you might get an extra action, depending on your exact initiative? Or is that the Diplomacy DC 20 feat? [/QUOTE]
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