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<blockquote data-quote="MoogleEmpMog" data-source="post: 3258958" data-attributes="member: 22882"><p>At CR21, MM1 monsters have an average of 431 hp. Note than out of the eight monsters at this CR, *seven* are dragons and thus unlikely to be charged. The one non-dragon is the titan, who has 370. Ancient Blue has 445, Brass Wyrm has 459, Gold Old (golden oldie?) has 391, Ancient Green has 432, Very Old Red has 449, Very Old Silver has 387, and Great Wyrm White has 522.</p><p></p><p>MM2 monsters, all one of them, have 320 hp. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":P" title="Stick out tongue :P" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":P" /> It's the bone ooze, in case you're wondering. MM3 has no CR 21+ monsters at all.</p><p></p><p>Warcraft Manual of Monsters has one, too - the pit lord, at 250 hp. He's in a setting with slightly higher than normal damage values, so he's definitely the hp loser this time - a clear single character alpha strike kill.</p><p></p><p>Monsters of the Mind has two: the Great Wyrm Makara Dragon (542 hp) and the Wondrous Many-Headed Beast of Ketasha (362 hp). Average: 452.</p><p></p><p>From the Monster Encylopaedia II (I didn't have any): Fell Archon 209, Armoredon 495 (dragon), Meriginus Demon 348, Very Old Ashen Dragon 375, Ancient Darkstone Dragon 400, Very Old Eerie Dragon 356, Ancient Sword Dragon 432, Blaze Dragon 324, Galasian Leviathan 702. Average 404.</p><p></p><p>From the Monsternomicon, one (rather sad, for all that it is wicked cool in flavor) entrant: Deathjack 110.</p><p></p><p>At CR21, classed NPCs (specifically, the ELH premades) have an average of 133 hp. Barbarian 183, bard 94, cleric 136, druid 115, fighter 178, monk 136, paladin 157, ranger 157, rogue 115, sorcerer 97 and wizard 97.</p><p></p><p>429 Dragons (13)</p><p>393 Monsters (21)</p><p>333 Non-Dragon Monsters (8)</p><p>303 Overall (32)</p><p>218 Non-Dragons and NPCs (19)</p><p>133 NPCs (11)</p><p></p><p>I would expect a party of four ECL 17 PCs to kill an average example of anything up through the general monsters category in one round. An average PC at that level can IMX deal 100 damage in one round.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="MoogleEmpMog, post: 3258958, member: 22882"] At CR21, MM1 monsters have an average of 431 hp. Note than out of the eight monsters at this CR, *seven* are dragons and thus unlikely to be charged. The one non-dragon is the titan, who has 370. Ancient Blue has 445, Brass Wyrm has 459, Gold Old (golden oldie?) has 391, Ancient Green has 432, Very Old Red has 449, Very Old Silver has 387, and Great Wyrm White has 522. MM2 monsters, all one of them, have 320 hp. :P It's the bone ooze, in case you're wondering. MM3 has no CR 21+ monsters at all. Warcraft Manual of Monsters has one, too - the pit lord, at 250 hp. He's in a setting with slightly higher than normal damage values, so he's definitely the hp loser this time - a clear single character alpha strike kill. Monsters of the Mind has two: the Great Wyrm Makara Dragon (542 hp) and the Wondrous Many-Headed Beast of Ketasha (362 hp). Average: 452. From the Monster Encylopaedia II (I didn't have any): Fell Archon 209, Armoredon 495 (dragon), Meriginus Demon 348, Very Old Ashen Dragon 375, Ancient Darkstone Dragon 400, Very Old Eerie Dragon 356, Ancient Sword Dragon 432, Blaze Dragon 324, Galasian Leviathan 702. Average 404. From the Monsternomicon, one (rather sad, for all that it is wicked cool in flavor) entrant: Deathjack 110. At CR21, classed NPCs (specifically, the ELH premades) have an average of 133 hp. Barbarian 183, bard 94, cleric 136, druid 115, fighter 178, monk 136, paladin 157, ranger 157, rogue 115, sorcerer 97 and wizard 97. 429 Dragons (13) 393 Monsters (21) 333 Non-Dragon Monsters (8) 303 Overall (32) 218 Non-Dragons and NPCs (19) 133 NPCs (11) I would expect a party of four ECL 17 PCs to kill an average example of anything up through the general monsters category in one round. An average PC at that level can IMX deal 100 damage in one round. [/QUOTE]
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