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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Vorput" data-source="post: 3668976" data-attributes="member: 35874">I meant the ability that turns YOU to stone, or gives you damage reduction- or whaetever it does.  And I disagree- the 9th level ability to deal 100 points of damage to EVERYTHING in a 60 foot RADIUS [which also deals automatic massive damage save upon being hit with it]!  Show me a comparable wizard spell!  The 3rd level DW wind which shoots a ball of fire that does 5d6 damage- it's equal to the damage of a fireball a wizard would get at that level, with the limit of it having a reduced range and a single target- its comparable to the orb spells (which granted don't allow SR, which is something most people have a problem with).  But to each his own, I don't have the book in front of me or believe I could find more.Principle of the thing- the fighter's ability to take those feats is what sets them apart, I don't need the warblade muscling in on their territory by being able to do in an hour what it takes the fighter years to learn <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />  Don't warblades get bonus feats too?I may agree with Mort that the solution isn't to hurt the warblade, but rather to help the fighter- but that's another thread/edition.Str like every fighter, dex like a ranger/barbarian, con isn't nearly as important since they have a d12 hit die!  Their class features provide a nice bonus if they have a good int, but they're hardly neccesary to the character build.  Correct me if I'm wrong (and i very well could be on this), but don't warblades just need to spend a swift action to recover maneuvers used?  If you're setting out to make them comparable to fighter (Accepting fighter as a balanced class)- then they should have equal skill points.  If you'll admit warblade is a better class than fighter (and that may be a good thing, perhaps fighters are the problem), then it's not so much of an issue.  I don't have the book with me so I can't speak definetly on their class features.Anyway, these are just my own opinions that the DM may want to watch out for.  Perhaps he'll see no problem with them in play.  I just like to compare new base classes back to the core classes, and judge them by those.Vorp</blockquote>

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