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Tome of Battle: Book of 9 Swords - Things to watch out for?
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<blockquote data-quote="castro3nw" data-source="post: 3669000" data-attributes="member: 50268"><p>Hmm.. Things to look out for.</p><p></p><p>1) People who knee-jerk the Warblade, and declare him overpowered. Like Zurai said, it's likely the weakest of the three classes. Honestly, they're fairly powerful up until iterative attacks, and especially at level 5. They get their level 3 maneuvers then, and the other full-BAB classes haven't acquired their 2nd attack yet. They're pretty ok most of the rest of the time.</p><p></p><p>seriously though..</p><p></p><p>2) Iron Heart Surge - Read through the maneuver, and decide what effects it can/can't end beforehand... It's really poorly worded.</p><p></p><p>3) White Raven Tactics - If no one tries to abuse this, it's alot of fun. People are saying to limit it to move actions or something, but as far as I'm concerned it's ok as long as a) can't use it on self, and b) can only benefit from the affects of it once/round.</p><p></p><p>4) Agreed on Swooping Dragon Strike. Just use the same Save mechanism as all the rest.</p><p></p><p>5) Skill boosting items - Be careful. The aforementioned Swooping Dragon Strike (unmodified) sets a stun DC based on the result of a jump check. Not really a huge deal, but it scares people and is kinda silly. Also, several Diamond Mind maneuvers work based on a concentration check. There are concentration to save maneuvers and concentration check for damage maneuvers. Might be a good idea to keep a close eye on the availability of skill boosting items for either of those skills. There's also a maneuver that uses ...sense motive... (i think) but it's not anything I've ever heard anyone actually take, so not likely good enough to worry about. (it looks fun though)</p><p></p><p>Also.. Bo9S is lots of fun. Enjoy playing with fighty classes w/options.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="castro3nw, post: 3669000, member: 50268"] Hmm.. Things to look out for. 1) People who knee-jerk the Warblade, and declare him overpowered. Like Zurai said, it's likely the weakest of the three classes. Honestly, they're fairly powerful up until iterative attacks, and especially at level 5. They get their level 3 maneuvers then, and the other full-BAB classes haven't acquired their 2nd attack yet. They're pretty ok most of the rest of the time. seriously though.. 2) Iron Heart Surge - Read through the maneuver, and decide what effects it can/can't end beforehand... It's really poorly worded. 3) White Raven Tactics - If no one tries to abuse this, it's alot of fun. People are saying to limit it to move actions or something, but as far as I'm concerned it's ok as long as a) can't use it on self, and b) can only benefit from the affects of it once/round. 4) Agreed on Swooping Dragon Strike. Just use the same Save mechanism as all the rest. 5) Skill boosting items - Be careful. The aforementioned Swooping Dragon Strike (unmodified) sets a stun DC based on the result of a jump check. Not really a huge deal, but it scares people and is kinda silly. Also, several Diamond Mind maneuvers work based on a concentration check. There are concentration to save maneuvers and concentration check for damage maneuvers. Might be a good idea to keep a close eye on the availability of skill boosting items for either of those skills. There's also a maneuver that uses ...sense motive... (i think) but it's not anything I've ever heard anyone actually take, so not likely good enough to worry about. (it looks fun though) Also.. Bo9S is lots of fun. Enjoy playing with fighty classes w/options. [/QUOTE]
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