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<blockquote data-quote="Arkhandus" data-source="post: 3669177" data-attributes="member: 13966">defendi: part of your group's problem may be that you're not using Complete Warrior and Player's Handbook II, perhaps.&nbsp; I dunno if you are or not, but the core Fighter is pretty weak if you don't use any supplements.Also: Keep in mind that Warblades only get about half as many feats as Fighters (or was it more like 3/5ths?). <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/nervous.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":heh:" title="Nervous Laugh&nbsp; &nbsp; :heh:" data-shortname=":heh:" />&nbsp; Also, note that the Warblade can't usually attack more than once per round with a maneuver; a Fighter can usually get off 2 or 3 attacks in the same time, either with a bow + Rapid Shot or Manyshot, or just using iterative melee attacks.&nbsp; It's probably more fair at 11th-level+ where the Fighter is making 3 attacks for every 1 offensive maneuver of the Warblade's.&nbsp; Power Attack matters some too, which a Warblade can't apply to his maneuvers.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Arkhandus, post: 3669177, member: 13966"] defendi: part of your group's problem may be that you're not using Complete Warrior and Player's Handbook II, perhaps. I dunno if you are or not, but the core Fighter is pretty weak if you don't use any supplements. Also: Keep in mind that Warblades only get about half as many feats as Fighters (or was it more like 3/5ths?). :heh: Also, note that the Warblade can't usually attack more than once per round with a maneuver; a Fighter can usually get off 2 or 3 attacks in the same time, either with a bow + Rapid Shot or Manyshot, or just using iterative melee attacks. It's probably more fair at 11th-level+ where the Fighter is making 3 attacks for every 1 offensive maneuver of the Warblade's. Power Attack matters some too, which a Warblade can't apply to his maneuvers. [/QUOTE]

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