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<blockquote data-quote="Prophet2b" data-source="post: 3672628" data-attributes="member: 36476">Well...&nbsp; If I wanted to play classic fantasy, I would start by NOT playing D&amp;D.&nbsp; D&amp;D is D&amp;D - which is most definitely not classic fantasy.That said, I don't think you can create that kind of fighter.&nbsp; Take Aragorn or Legolas for example - you'd HAVE to be in Epic Levels to do what they do, and even then you couldn't actually do all of it.&nbsp; The mechanics of D&amp;D just don't lend themselves to that kind of character creation.&nbsp; Unless you do Gestalt - you might be able to do it then.Classic fantasy fighters aren't just good at hitting things, though.&nbsp; They always have amazing skills, high charisma, they're wise and intelligent, etc.&nbsp; In fact, fighting is probably one of their least noticeable abilities when they're considered on the whole.D&amp;D adjusts for this by taking those classic elements and dividing them up, in many cases.&nbsp; You can be great at fighting, or great at skills, or else you're semi-decent in both, but never great in both.&nbsp; The classic fantasy fighter is always more than just a fighter.&nbsp; For mechanical reasons, you just can't do that in D&amp;D.&nbsp; Not without every player under the sun screaming foul.The closest I've seen is Bo9S.&nbsp; Which is another reason I love it so much.&nbsp; You don't have to create a character centered around supernatural powers.&nbsp; He can be a pure swordsman if you want him to.&nbsp; And, on top of that, he gets half-way decent skills, etc.&nbsp; Wizards just decided to leave it in the hands of the players, in this case.&nbsp; They can do that, or they can choose more &quot;magical&quot; type abilities (a battle sorcerer, if you will).&nbsp; It's all there - it's just all up to the player.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Prophet2b, post: 3672628, member: 36476"] Well... If I wanted to play classic fantasy, I would start by [i][b]NOT[/b][/i][b][/b] playing D&D. D&D is D&D - which is most definitely not classic fantasy. That said, I don't think you can create that kind of fighter. Take Aragorn or Legolas for example - you'd HAVE to be in Epic Levels to do what they do, and even then you couldn't actually do all of it. The mechanics of D&D just don't lend themselves to that kind of character creation. Unless you do Gestalt - you might be able to do it then. Classic fantasy fighters aren't just good at hitting things, though. They always have amazing skills, high charisma, they're wise and intelligent, etc. In fact, fighting is probably one of their least noticeable abilities when they're considered on the whole. D&D adjusts for this by taking those classic elements and dividing them up, in many cases. You can be [i]great[/i] at fighting, or [i]great[/i] at skills, or else you're semi-decent in both, but never great in both. The classic fantasy fighter is always more than just a fighter. For mechanical reasons, you just can't do that in D&D. Not without every player under the sun screaming foul. The closest I've seen is Bo9S. Which is another reason I love it so much. You [i]don't[/i] have to create a character centered around supernatural powers. He can be a pure swordsman if you want him to. And, on top of that, he gets half-way decent skills, etc. Wizards just decided to leave it in the hands of the players, in this case. They can do that, or they can choose more "magical" type abilities (a battle sorcerer, if you will). It's all there - it's just all up to the player. [/QUOTE]

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