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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Arkhandus" data-source="post: 3975239" data-attributes="member: 13966">Nope.  And Improved Unarmed Strike only deals with unarmed AoO matters.  Anyone can be proficient in unarmed strikes (they're simple weapons, only wizards and maybe one or two other classes aren't proficient in them), really.  And anyone can deal lethal damage with unarmed strikes by taking a -4 penalty on attack rolls.  Also, technically, only monks can make effective unarmed strikes with any part of their body, by the RAW.Mountain Hammer, and its higher-level versions, were explicitly put into the book to allow for stuff like a martial artist breaking iron or stone with his bare hands.  And to get past pesky Damage Reduction.Also, there is no rule whatsoever, in the Book of Nine Swords, that says you need to be proficient in the weapons you use for martial maneuvers or strikes.  You could initiate Mountain Hammer or Five-Shadow Creeping Ice Enervation Strike using a spoon, if you wanted to!  The weapon used doesn't matter much because you're going through the same very specific motions to initiate each maneuver, whether there's a weapon in your hand or not, you just won't be as accurate (-4 nonproficiency penalty on attack rolls) if you aren't used to swinging that kind of weapon around effectively (i.e. proficiently).And yeah, I was wondering about that 'ineffectual attacks' line in the rules about striking objects.  But I don't think a martial adept smacking stuff bare-handed with Mountain Hammer, Elder Mountain Hammer, or Ancient Mountain Hammer would be considered to be making an ineffectual attack against the iron bars; those maneuvers specifically channel earth-like hardness into the martial adept's striking appendage or weapon.</blockquote>

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